Yeah, detection is a factor. i wrestle at a JC now so we dont get tested but im going to a university after next year and might play some football as well. thats why i was considering a short cycle for the vascularity and to stay solid during the offseason . I will probably bump to heavyweight at the universty level. and want to be around 235. i have no problem gaining weight i have weighed 230 and been as strong as an ox but im always a little too chubby when im that big. i was wanting to get some veins to maybe make the wieght gain be a little more solid next time around. I AM A BRAND NEWBIE TO THIS FIELD! I know lots about suplements but this route i am quite ignorant. thank you for any help/guidance you can give.