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    1. 07-27-2003, 02:48 PM #1
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      Hey bro's just looking for some advice. I am 20 yrs old 5'10 208 bf 16-18%. I plan on starting my cycle in a few monthes or when I turn 21. I am cutting naturally for now,very strict diet and 50 mins cardio every morning on an empty stomach. I have lost about 25 pounds since June. I will get to 185-190 w/ bf 13-14% before i started a cycle. My goal is to gain quality muscle while keeping bodyfat gain as minimal as possible. I do not want to do a big bulker i.e test, eq and d-bol. I want to keep the sides as minimal as possible. I am predisposed to mpb. I want to use Eq but dont think I will as I have a problem with anxiety and heard eq can affect that. I was thinking....

      1) Test 400-500mg's wk 1-12.
      .25mg arimidex daily, clomid post and nolva on hand.
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      --Is 250mg's too little an amount to use as my body producing that per week naturally??

      --Considering adding prop in weeks 1-4.

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    2. 07-27-2003, 03:14 PM #2
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      Cwb, welcome to the board. Although I'm not new to these topics, I am new to this particular board, and I've already found it to be very helpful.
      First off, what you have to remember, is that you diet is what will mostly determine your cycle. As for the AAS: yes, some are Obviously more prone to help you in certain cycles. So if you are not wanting to become "a big bulker" just watch your diet (check the diet threads). So keeping that in mind, I think that what you've got looks pretty good. As for the Prop, I would stick to one compound, bc you don't know how your body will react just yet. You should see some very nice gains with that and remember...Train Hard>>>EAT/DIET right>>>Sleep...this will determine how well you do. Let us know what you decide on and how it goes! My 2 cents...
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      Imo you should do enanthate @ 500mg a week for 12 weeks. Or 500mg of sust a week for 12 weeks. See how your body reacts to test first. Then start stacking on later cycles. Just my 2 amps...
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      my best cycle (cycle 1) was sust250 and d-bol

      sust- 500 per week (divide your shots up mon-thurs)
      d-bol-25-30 mg per day for 5 weeks

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      Thanks for the advice so far. I want to stay away from d-bol as I've had past problems with blood pressure and my hair is already thining, I dont think I really need dbol in order to reach my goal.
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      test 500mg wk
      will be perfectly fine
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      This board really is great, most feedback I've gotten. I appreaciate everyone's advice. I will either go with 400-500mg's test for my cycle. 500mg's if I get ICN's and 400mg's if i get brovel/tornel. Does anyone think I should use prop for weeks 1-4, I dont mind the injections. Thanks again
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      id go with the test enan over sust anytime. 500ml a week is perfect
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      Originally posted by Cwb
      Does anyone think I should use prop for weeks 1-4, I dont mind the injections.
      I don't. Just use enthanate or cypionate the entire cycle. I'd lean towards 400mg since you're concerned with MPB. If you're already thinning, you might wanna use some minoxidil and spirolactone along with the proscar.
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      id go with the test enan over sust anytime. 500ml a week is perfect

      500 ml wtf you want to kill im or what maybe you want to say 500 MG a week (LOL)
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      Originally posted by climb
      id go with the test enan over sust anytime. 500ml a week is perfect

      500 ml wtf you want to kill im or what maybe you want to say 500 MG a week (LOL)

      Yeah I'd do the enanthate over the sust also. Since prop is one of 4 testosterones in the sust it needs to be shot eod. You'll still get good gains but I think its more ideal to use sust at 750mg a week shooting 250mg three times a week. Since this is your first cycle you definitely don't need that much. If you're not using that much test stick with cyp or enan IMO.
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