TweetGuns your spot on. Since I’ve been on self administered trt since end of 30s…I’ve played the “do I need it” vs “this makes me feel like crap” game. I will hit hcg once in awhile to give my system a jolt but I’ve gone long periods without it…when at one time it was religion for me. Kicked nolvadex a long time ago.never felt like it did anything but make me feel crappy. Now clomid im on a long run without it but I used to hit it once a week and found that it made me feel better.


Mid 40s now and all that extra crap makes me sick so I wonder how bad it was for us as we sucked it down like golden rule!

Never thought I’d be micro dosing my test daily but I love it.

No clomid, no hcg, no nolvadex…

To answer botttles question I’d say a two week run at a quality tribulus and maca would be more beneficial.


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Originally Posted by 6p6

Guns your spot on. Since I’ve been on self administered trt since end of 30s…I’ve played the “do I need it” vs “this makes me feel like crap” game. I will hit hcg once in awhile to give my system a jolt but I’ve gone long periods without it…when at one time it was religion for me. Kicked nolvadex a long time ago.never felt like it did anything but make me feel crappy. Now clomid im on a long run without it but I used to hit it once a week and found that it made me feel better.


Mid 40s now and all that extra crap makes me sick so I wonder how bad it was for us as we sucked it down like golden rule!

Never thought I’d be micro dosing my test daily but I love it.

No clomid, no hcg, no nolvadex…

To answer botttles question I’d say a two week run at a quality tribulus and maca would be more beneficial.


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wouldnt even waste any money on tribulus now man. it has been proven pretty much 100% worthless. i have seen some unreal lab results from dante trudel's abolic or tsterone products from his company the lab. he provides a boat load of research on them and restoring levels and supporting natty test production. like you i have no need for that stuff since i am on doc script hrt for life and i have no plans to have kids.
something a lot of guys also dont look at is free test levels. this is just as if not more important than actual total test numbers. check that bad boy also to see if you are good to go and recovered

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Originally Posted by guns01

wouldnt even waste any money on tribulus now man. it has been proven pretty much 100% worthless. i have seen some unreal lab results from dante trudel's abolic or tsterone products from his company the lab. he provides a boat load of research on them and restoring levels and supporting natty test production. like you i have no need for that stuff since i am on doc script hrt for life and i have no plans to have kids.
something a lot of guys also dont look at is free test levels. this is just as if not more important than actual total test numbers. check that bad boy also to see if you are good to go and recovered

Oh that wasn’t for me! I’m on trt for life but I find trib and especially mace increase “desire” aka libido-which can help you get through!

That said I personally skip that and prefer maca and oxy aka the love drug OR pt141…but I hate the nausea. I even tried limitless version with the n-acetyl added for nausea.


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