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      Originally posted by Hulk over at the Meso board

      Date: 07/24/02 08:04 PM
      Edited: 07/24/02 09:01 PM
      Author: Hulk
      Subject: HGH



      A lot of you guys want a GH FAQ so here it is. Please feel free to add or give constructive criticism, and keep this BUMPED UP!!! for a while.

      1. Cost. HGH is very expensive and is not usually recommended for bodybuilders new to AAS use. Often, for a 128 I.U. kit it can cost as much as $700. However, starting with HGH use early can ward off training injuries that come with testosterone useage. This is due to HGH's effect on collagen syn.

      2. IGF-1. HGH will only increase IGF-1 for a very limited time, approx a couple weeks. After that, unless it is combined with something such as insulin, T3, or testosterone, do not expect to see much skeletal muscle growth. It has been proven inferior to testosterone as a weight promoting agent in AIDS patients for this reason.

      3. Duration. Ideally, HGH is used for approx 3 months at between 3.6 I.U./DAY - 9.0 I.U./DAY. The average human male age 20 YRS old will produce between 0.8 I.U./DAY - 1.4 I.U./DAY of HGH NATURALLY. For this reason you may want to make sure you are getting plenty more HGH than this. When you supplement with exogenous HGH you will drastically reduce your own natural production. HGH will cause you to hold tremendous amounts of water and it is often painful, far more painful than testosterone. Those who use 6.0 I.U. a day or more often cannot take it and have to lower their doseage. Many bodybuilders ideally want to take huge amounts, ie, 16.0 I.U.'s a day, but cannot physically handle anywhere near that amount due to the water gain hurting their wrists, ankles, and joints.

      4. Effect on Insulin. As Hogg has noted several times, HGH will make you tired during the day. This is due to HGH's antagonistic relationship with insulin. Almost always, except during intense exercise or sprints, when HGH is soaring, insulin is plummeting, and vice-versa. For safety reasons HGH injections at night are optimal. An injection right before bed on an empty stomach will antagonize cortisol, increase IGF-1 levels, and give you a good nights sleep. IF you choose to use in the morning or afternoon, your normally high insulin-levels will plummet and you will need to eat quickly or risk feeling very tired. Also, taking glucophage will help make your insulin more effective, offsetting HGH's effects on it.

      5. Injection. HGH can be injected I.M., Sub-Q, or even I.V. However, Sub-Q seems the easiest and also, the most effective. HGH injected Sub-Q will increase IGF-1 levels 12-16 HRS after injection. For this reason, some choose both A.M. and P.M. injections to keep IGF-1 chronically elevated while others choose only nightly injections.

      5. I (swolegreaser) personally disagree with the am/pm injections. Am injections are best and other shot done 7 hrs later. Pm injections IMO are bad because 2 hrs into your deep REM is when release approx 2iu's of natural growth hormone. Now if you did PM injections than your shuttting down your natural GH and not letting your hormone do its jump naturally. By the time in the AM the GH half life is over and thats way only AM and evening injections are the best way IMHO.



      6. Side Effects. The most common is musculoskeletal discomfort due to water retention. Still other common sides with HGH use are: fever, diarrhea, numbing of the nerves, fatigue (remember insulin resistance, more common with morning or afternoon use), headache, and hyperglycemia.

      7. Primary effects of HGH. Growth Hormone can offer you what no AAS can. It can cause hyperplasia, muscle satellite cells splitting into two! AAS only causes a cell to grow bigger, but HGH can do that as well as split them, upping your supposedly fixed genetic potential. Hyperplasia has a lot to do with IGF-1, so to achieve it you may want to be using it with test, insulin or at least glucophage, and T3. These additional substances will elevate IGF-1 levels past the two weeks that HGH can only do by itself. However, HGH will increase collagen for months, even if taken by itself. Its effects on collagen last longer than its ability to increase IGF-1 by itself. For this reason, many bodybuilders like to use HGH to repair damaged, joints, ligaments, cartilage, tendons, or other things affected by collagen production. It is speculated that HGH has growth effects on bone, and internal organs which are independant of IGF-1. For this reason, it is not for the beginner. It can thicken the intestinal wall, organ size, and increase bone density.

      8. Like anything, HGH use should only be considered after years of careful study. Exogenous HGH will shut down natural production and therefore should be used cautiously. It may be wise to use proven growth hormone releasing peptides like GHRP-2 or GHRH itself, after HGH use is terminated. This should help increase natural levels when they are low after exogenous HGH use.

      I AM NOT ADVOCATING HGH USE. ONLY USE HGH AFTER CONSULTATION WITH YOUR DOCTOR. THANKS.

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      For all you bros that wanna learn about GH, this is a good read.
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