TweetI'm not that impressed with the overall package. For a pro, his back sucks. His delts look suspect for synthol to me. He needs to do some serious rowing and some serious deadlifting to bring his back up to the same level as the rest of his body. Look at his lats from the front, you can barely see them. Also, look at his width from the back...that stinks too. I know that most guys won't ever be Lee Haney in the back department, but this guy is obviously doing something wrong. His lats from the front remind me of a comment that Nasser made about Flex Wheeler..."He has baby lats!" LOL.

Tweetwow, he looks great, got a ways to go but who am I kidding he's got genetics!

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Originally Posted by GonnaBAGearHead

I'm not that impressed with the overall package. For a pro, his back sucks. His delts look suspect for synthol to me. He needs to do some serious rowing and some serious deadlifting to bring his back up to the same level as the rest of his body. Look at his lats from the front, you can barely see them. Also, look at his width from the back...that stinks too. I know that most guys won't ever be Lee Haney in the back department, but this guy is obviously doing something wrong. His lats from the front remind me of a comment that Nasser made about Flex Wheeler..."He has baby lats!" LOL.

In the video there showing before's and after's might want to watch it again...his after's look pretty friggin awesome

TweetSo you don't think he's natty?

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Originally Posted by GonnaBAGearHead

I'm not that impressed with the overall package. For a pro, his back sucks. His delts look suspect for synthol to me. He needs to do some serious rowing and some serious deadlifting to bring his back up to the same level as the rest of his body. Look at his lats from the front, you can barely see them. Also, look at his width from the back...that stinks too. I know that most guys won't ever be Lee Haney in the back department, but this guy is obviously doing something wrong. His lats from the front remind me of a comment that Nasser made about Flex Wheeler..."He has baby lats!" LOL.

He's only 21, keep that in mind.

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Originally Posted by 6p6

In the video there showing before's and after's might want to watch it again...his after's look pretty friggin awesome

I'm not saying that he doesn't have potential. I'm not saying that he's not massive. I am just saying that his back needs a lot of work. The only way to get monster lats is to do some CRAZY heavy rowing. Look at Haney, Yates, Ronnie...all of them did tons of heavy rowing and there were some of the best backs EVER on any human being to walk the earth. The kid looks great, but he is going to get killed by guys 40 pounds lighter than him in contests because he lacks a good back. My hat is off to him, but I am also trying to give a little constructive criticism.

To quote Ronnie, "Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights" LOL. I might be a little off on the quote, but the moral of the story is there. If you want giant lats, king cobra hood lats you need to do a lot more heavy rowing that this guy has been doing. He obviously puts mass on pretty easily so he is probably just not as into working back as he is into working legs.

Arnie was just the opposite, so when he was training he would always train in shorts to see how small his legs were so that he would be reminded that even though his upper body was huge his legs needed a lot of work.

Im not trying to be down on the kid. Hes done great so far, but he just needs to do more work on his back.

TweetOkay...I take back what I said about his lats. LOL...the video stopped on me this morning before it got to the newer stuff. It shows his back NOW and its much better.

Someone must have told him he needed some back work back in 2005 and he listened because it looks a lot better now LMAO.

I take it all back, his back is sweet LOL.

Tweethes on that juice...his quads are like the size of 4 new born babies