Tweeti do like the strict seated heavy ones with perfect form in the 8-10 range. then immediately stand up and grab some way heavier ones and do the partial swings out to the side for sets of 20-50. head up to disengage the traps and arms completely straight. it is literally all lateral delt head and burns like nothing else. you only move the weight on the swings like 3-6in at most. looks stupid until you try it. do the same thing with rear lats as well. forced negatives work pretty good on a lat machine to tack on even more to it

TweetI do an immediate set after a heavy compound movement. Kinda like...

Standing push press (heavy 5x5)
After each set of 5, immediately grab 2 20 pound Dumbbells and do set of 15
Do the same with heavy Arnold press

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Originally Posted by guns01

i do like the strict seated heavy ones with perfect form in the 8-10 range. then immediately stand up and grab some way heavier ones and do the partial swings out to the side for sets of 20-50. head up to disengage the traps and arms completely straight. it is literally all lateral delt head and burns like nothing else. you only move the weight on the swings like 3-6in at most. looks stupid until you try it. do the same thing with rear lats as well. forced negatives work pretty good on a lat machine to tack on even more to it

if ive been getting frustrated i will poke my traps before a delt lift. if i feel the pokes on raises im not getting it done. the swings i will break out the wrist straps if need be. i chase the blood pump.

forced negs with the lat station is almost as genius as when i started using the same station for pushdowns. half the pulley, twice the resistance.

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Originally Posted by Skeletor

I do an immediate set after a heavy compound movement. Kinda like...

Standing push press (heavy 5x5)
After each set of 5, immediately grab 2 20 pound Dumbbells and do set of 15
Do the same with heavy Arnold press

I was with you until the arnie presses. Both my shoulders hate that exercise. But if they work for you blast it bro : )