TweetU try Lat pull downs but w/ different positioning of the hands ?
How about pullovers ? But instead of having ur back on a bench w/ a dumbell, the sit down pullover machine ?

Tweetfocus on driving the elbows straight down and wring the crap out of them. you really have to focus on feeling them contract and not using your arms. with the db or machine pullovers, they will really open them up and stretch them out really nice. lats are one of those muscles that take a lot of focus to feel them working esp since you cant see them while you are training them

TweetI squeeze the crap out of mine. You will know what I mean when you do it. The same idea as any muscle group, may just take some practice for you to feel them contract/tighten up.

TweetAll you need bro is weighted pullups. I hooked up my weight belt with a chain so i can attach dumbbells or plates to it and im telling you pullups are the answer. I was so sore the next day after I started these I felt soreness in areas that havent been touched in years.

TweetI use 5 different hammer strength back machines for back where you add the plates.By the 5th Hammer strength im getting wasted tired. Then I go and do close grip pull downs,then after wide grip pull downs to the front never behind the neck.Then I end it with seated close grip.Those last 3 are my lighter weight rep it out. The hammer strength I stack the shit out of the plates and go heavy,the cable machines I rep it out less weight .I will mix up the HS machines so I dont always do the first one I like the most first Ill sometimes do it last or 2nd you get it.I always mix things up after a few months,try something new.And yes The v shape will come but only in time.GO HEAVY OR GO HOME

Tweetwhy never behind the back

TweetPull downs behind the neck should be outlawed in the bodybuilding 10 commandments thy shall not bring bar behind thy neck,Causing big time injury to neck.To much stress on the disks in your neck.I don't see anyone doing those anymore.Also shoulder presses used to be behind the neck fuk that not anymore

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Originally Posted by hicktown

All you need bro is weighted pullups. I hooked up my weight belt with a chain so i can attach dumbbells or plates to it and im telling you pullups are the answer. I was so sore the next day after I started these I felt soreness in areas that havent been touched in years.

chins are great hick but you are setting yourself up for a nasty shoulder injury doing them weighted. this is due to no stability while moving that weight. you can get by with it on pulldowns and such but many many people get hurt when their strength gets pretty high on these. good tip on these without weights, is arch back and keep your chest as high as possible, squeeze shoulder blades together as you come up and hold the contraction at the top for a sec or two. then come all the way back down into the stretch and allow your shoulder blades to open up completely. these are also a hell of a ball buster with no weight at all, well when you weight over 250 they are a biatch

TweetYa thats true when I was doing a set the weight started to make my body swing and i couldnt stop it. Im gonna continue doing them for awhile to switch it up though because ive been doing the same back workout for awhile. I only added a 25lb plate too which is all i can handle right now.

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Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

I train my lats almost brutality but they fail to respond.
What training do you all do to get a thick back an V taper?

Hey you are not that much older then me so I understand things from a different perspective. I have lats always have but I think it is from all the dips I did as a kid. I have less nerves in my lats so I really need to concentrate on taking all my other muscles out of the exercises and think about my lats on all exercises. I believe that a lot of training is in your mind telling what muscles to work. JMO

TweetLots of stuff already said but I'll add my two. Like already stated really concentrating on pulling with the back and taking your arms out of the equation as much as possible... your arms should simply be used as hooks. Basic exercises like heavy barbell rows, t bar rows, one arm dumbbell rows, pull ups (I like the assisted ones now because you can really concentrate on the squeeze), and like Fuzo said Hammer strength Back machines. Really squeeze and contract the crap out of your back on all movements. Not so heavy on those basic movements that you can't concentrate on puling with the lats but heavy enough to really pack on the meat. New exercises guns has showed me that I love are sliding the rack rack pulls where you really squeeze with the lats throughout the movement and one arm barbell rows and meadows rows. Another thing I think has really helped my back is doing a good amount of stretching and even more so foam rolling before and especially after back training to really allow that fascia to open up. I love foam rolling the crap out of my lats after back training.

TweetWhen I'm having trouble getting my lats to fire, I head back to heavy basics. Heavy barbell, or T-bar rows and then jump on the lat pull down and really squeeze the crap outta them.

TweetConcentrate on the negative on pull-ups and cable/DB Rows. Will make a huge difference