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      Hey FIST you have a story for everything. Will cardio like running and basketball reduce strength if I continue strength training?

      Started a bball league and want to smash a marathon this year but still on a quest for 700lb dead lift.

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      I dont have a story for you but I will give my opinion. Basketball is something I would consider to be intense cardio. Not sure what kind of cardio you were doing before but if you have added this to your regimen, I think making sure you are getting adequate calories in, will help you maintain your strength.
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      Thanks baby. If its just calories I'll be good. Nothing is better after a game or run then PIZZA.

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      I once heard Jay Cutler say, "you can never over train if you eat enough...". But yeah BBall might be like a variation of HIIT, with sprinting up and down the court and kind of hanging around a bit till its time to move again ha ha!

      700lb dead huh? Hmm...I got an idea now!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ezskanken View Post
      I once heard Jay Cutler say, "you can never over train if you eat enough...". But yeah BBall might be like a variation of HIIT, with sprinting up and down the court and kind of hanging around a bit till its time to move again ha ha!

      700lb dead huh? Hmm...I got an idea now!
      And what might this idea be?

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      I like that idea. More in the morning after we discuss, but thinking this could get fun and nasty.

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      It shouldn't effect your training at all. Now if you play your game then directly go train well that's a different story. Make sure you have time to recover and are getting proper nutrients in to support growth and it might even help since its a fair amount of explosive movement work.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jamescb77 View Post
      It shouldn't effect your training at all. Now if you play your game then directly go train well that's a different story. Make sure you have time to recover and are getting proper nutrients in to support growth and it might even help since its a fair amount of explosive movement work.
      Games are Thursday nights. My weight training is always first and was going to end workouts with 30-60 minutes of running. Was doing incline walking but its not enough. Off days will be pure cardio. Also going to start a 5x5 on just about all weights.

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      From my personal experience, anything more than about 15min of cardio is counterproductive to all out strength. It trashes your cns. I have also found weight gain and increased strength go together and loss of weight normally equalls loss of strength. This is just what I have concluded over the last 20yrs of training.

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      In my opinion, cardio has zero negative affect on strength unless you're in a caloric deficit. I did three 60 minute sessions per week on a very strict, very heavy DC regiment for years and the only affect was a very good respiratory/cardiovascular system and increased hunger to aid in pounding calories. As stated though, I wouldn't do an HIT session of cardio and then hit the weights, the glycogen loss from cardio will affect you, but otherwise do any cardio you can and like.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cb1 View Post
      From my personal experience, anything more than about 15min of cardio is counterproductive to all out strength. It trashes your cns. I have also found weight gain and increased strength go together and loss of weight normally equalls loss of strength. This is just what I have concluded over the last 20yrs of training.
      i wasnt going to be the first to trash this idea but since cb1 brought it up i will share with you how my body has worked. i did the military thing until i retired a few years ago in a very high paced and strenuous job. lots of running and other stuff of course. well needless to say i had to choose during my strength and bulking phase and during my cutting phase around show preps so i could pass tests and attended lots of courses. anyway, anyone that knows me knows that not many people eat more than i do. i am an eating machine and always try to stay in a positve nitrogen balance.
      ok, in order for me to land around 18min 3 miles or less then i sacrifice strength and lots of it. you have to find a happy balance with what you are trying to achieve though. and i will tell you that with running man you tend to burn a ton more muscle than fat. at least that's how it is for most of us. look at distant runners and how soft but lean they are and then look at a sprinter. that's the best relation i can give you through personal experience
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      Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic5150 View Post
      In my opinion, cardio has zero negative affect on strength unless you're in a caloric deficit. I did three 60 minute sessions per week on a very strict, very heavy DC regiment for years and the only affect was a very good respiratory/cardiovascular system and increased hunger to aid in pounding calories. As stated though, I wouldn't do an HIT session of cardio and then hit the weights, the glycogen loss from cardio will affect you, but otherwise do any cardio you can and like.
      The good respiratory and cardiovascular is on point. When I do more cardio I feel more productive in weights. I feel like I rebound faster after each set.

      Looks like ill personally test this theory out but people bodies are all different.

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      so sprint if u wanna maintain or keep more muscle rather then jog for distance?

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      Quote Originally Posted by bionic redneck View Post
      so sprint if u wanna maintain or keep more muscle rather then jog for distance?
      I prefer jogging for distance. Was a distance runner 10 years ago in high school and was some of the most fun I ever had.

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      can u still maintain muscle and strength while running for distance?

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