TweetGuns, don't talk like that, you're gonna make me wanna cheat on Dante. And we just started going out.

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Originally Posted by RockShawn

Guns, don't talk like that, you're gonna make me wanna cheat on Dante. And we just started going out.

Dante will build the monster, stay the course. Eleven years made me what I am, guns is just helping me refine what's already there.

TweetI'm not jumping ship. My elbows wish otherwise. Lol. I'm beating my log by 20 lbs or more each workout. It's been insane the strength gain. I'm pretty sure it's packed on a lot size too cause my shirts look like they belong to my 5 year old.

My lats are just so far behind. I was gonna pm you but maybe you'd answer here; should I add another width move or maybe go to your back workout you gave me once a week? I'm worried about continuing to build so disproportionately.

TweetIf your lats aren't growing, look at your exercise selection and exercise execution. Are you doing rowing moves or yanking the weight just to get from point A to point B? Are you feeling your lats work or not? Mind/muscle connection, is it there?

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Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

If your lats aren't growing, look at your exercise selection and exercise execution. Are you doing rowing moves or yanking the weight just to get from point A to point B? Are you feeling your lats work or not? Mind/muscle connection, is it there?

I had been doing body weight plus wide grip and close grip chins (I don't get a lot out of these but everyone says these are the mass builders, for me it's more like "can I pull my fat ass up 8 times or not") I would probably get more mind muscle on a pull down cable for sure. My third exercise is a hammer strength high row ( those are my 3 width moves) the HS high rows I feel it big time. The connection is definitely there. My thickness moves are; rack pulls, t-bar rows, and HS low row (which I do with the high row)

So I think I answered it in there. Change exercises to get to a pure mind muscle connection. Right? Should i switch to more rowing motions since chins don't really do it for me too much? maybe replace the rack pulls and tbar with a more conventional row move like db row and cable row? I've really concentrated on my warm ups to make sure the muscle is flexing/working through the motion and I typically don't jerk the weight. It's controlled power on the positive and slow controlled negative.

I tried rack chins but I think that's gonna require a partner to help with weight. Again I went to failure on them but didn't feel I worked my lats much. More bicep for me in chins it seems.

TweetThis thread has so much good info.

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Originally Posted by RockShawn

I had been doing body weight plus wide grip and close grip chins (I don't get a lot out of these but everyone says these are the mass builders, for me it's more like "can I pull my fat ass up 8 times or not") I would probably get more mind muscle on a pull down cable for sure. My third exercise is a hammer strength high row ( those are my 3 width moves) the HS high rows I feel it big time. The connection is definitely there. My thickness moves are; rack pulls, t-bar rows, and HS low row (which I do with the high row)

So I think I answered it in there. Change exercises to get to a pure mind muscle connection. Right? Should i switch to more rowing motions since chins don't really do it for me too much? maybe replace the rack pulls and tbar with a more conventional row move like db row and cable row? I've really concentrated on my warm ups to make sure the muscle is flexing/working through the motion and I typically don't jerk the weight. It's controlled power on the positive and slow controlled negative.

I tried rack chins but I think that's gonna require a partner to help with weight. Again I went to failure on them but didn't feel I worked my lats much. More bicep for me in chins it seems.

Try this for your 3 exercises for width, pulldowns with a wide grip, pulldowns with palms facing and pulldowns with a reverse grip. For thickness do Hammer rows, Yates rows and rack deads. These for me allow mind/muscle connection and everyone I have had do these exercises has added width and thickness.

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Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

Try this for your 3 exercises for width, pulldowns with a wide grip, pulldowns with palms facing and pulldowns with a reverse grip. For thickness do Hammer rows, Yates rows and rack deads. These for me allow mind/muscle connection and everyone I have had do these exercises has added width and thickness.

I'll vouch on the rack pulls. Probably my favorite workout.

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Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

Try this for your 3 exercises for width, pulldowns with a wide grip, pulldowns with palms facing and pulldowns with a reverse grip. For thickness do Hammer rows, Yates rows and rack deads. These for me allow mind/muscle connection and everyone I have had do these exercises has added width and thickness.

All righty. Sorry to jack your thread too. Ill get em changed out. I do love my rack pulls/deads. Thanks anabolic!

Btw, you sore today?

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Originally Posted by RockShawn

All righty. Sorry to jack your thread too. Ill get em changed out. I do love my rack pulls/deads. Thanks anabolic!

Btw, you sore today?

You didn't hijack anything, I enjoy answering questions and helping. And yes, I am sore. My wife said my shoulders looked bigger yesterday, probably from all the blood in them.

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Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

You didn't hijack anything, I enjoy answering questions and helping. And yes, I am sore. My wife said my shoulders looked bigger yesterday, probably from all the blood in them.

with the dc discipline you have more than likely built more beef than is humanly possible. now we are going to enhance it with added thick, split and nasty detail. going to be one hell of a nice nasty change for sure. you guys do 20 rep widow maker sets and stuff. i do 100rep drop sets and 100 rep straight sets just to be nasty. now that's a pump

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Originally Posted by guns01

with the dc discipline you have more than likely built more beef than is humanly possible. now we are going to enhance it with added thick, split and nasty detail. going to be one hell of a nice nasty change for sure. you guys do 20 rep widow maker sets and stuff. i do 100rep drop sets and 100 rep straight sets just to be nasty. now that's a pump

Holy shit!! What did I get myself into?? Lol

TweetDoing another session this afternoon, looking forward to it and dreading it at the same time. Should be fun, just keep telling myself that!!!