• Join Us!
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Join Us!

  • Get the Fitness Geared Forum App Now!
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain


  • Join Us!
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
  • Join Us!
  • You have 1 new Private Message Attention Guest, if you are not a member of Fitness Geared - Body Building & Fitness Community, you have 1 new private message waiting, to view it you must fill out this form.
  • Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cocky
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Drunk
  • Embarrased
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Godly
  • Happy
  • Hateful
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Wtf
  • Dislikes Dislikes:  0
    Results 1 to 14 of 14

    Thread: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

    1. #1
      BABY1's Avatar
      BABY1 is offline Mrs FUZO
      Points: 341,474, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 0%
      Awards:
      Blog Award
      is is planting seeds
       
      I am:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Oct 2003
      Location
      the Woods
      Posts
      29,908
      Points
      341,474
      Level
      100
      Blog Entries
      559
      Rep Power
      644

      Default Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain



      • Get the Fitness Geared
        Forum App Now!
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      A major stunning review article was released by the prestigious British Medical Journal on March 31, 2015. The study evaluated the efficacy and safety of acetaminophen treatment for treatment of low back pain and osteoarthritis. The results provided a revealing wake-up call. After combing through mountains of data, the authors determined that acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, was ineffective in the treatment of low back and neck pain. Those who used acetaminophen as directed had higher prevalence of liver injury. In addition, they concluded that acetaminophen provided minimal short-term benefit for people with osteoarthritis or degenerative joint disease.
      The study was a systematic review with meta-analysis evaluating studies through several different medical data sources. Only randomized, controlled trials were used that compared placebo effects versus acetaminophen pain and inflammation reduction in those who had neck or low back pain or osteoarthritis/degenerative joint disease of the hip or knee. The authors used two independent reviewers to extract the data. A total of 13 randomized control trials were thoroughly scrutinized in order to reach their conclusion.
      Does Tylenol Help Neck Pain, Low Back Pain, and Arthritis?

      There were two main reasons why the authors did this study. The first was to evaluate the efficacy of the use of acetaminophen for pain management and arthritis. That is, do acetaminophen medications like Tylenol really help osteoarthritis pain? Millions of Americans suffer from low back and neck (spinal) pain. These concerns are leading causes of disability worldwide. Over nine percent of the world’s population or nearly one out of ten people are affected by significant spinal pain. Degenerative joint disease affects nearly four percent of the global population. The management of these concerns greatly contributes to the rising costs of health care. In the desire to provide cost-effective health care management, it is vital to know what works and what truly is marginal or ineffective. The researchers concluded that acetaminophen is ineffective for these concerns.
      Acetaminophen Safety

      The second concern of the study relates to acetaminophen use and safety. The full recommended dose of acetaminophen is 4,000 mg per day for regular use. In this review article, the statistics revealed solid, high quality evidence that regular therapeutic use increases the risk of having an abnormal liver function test by four-fold. A number of the studies included in this review found patients with osteoarthritis taking acetaminophen regularly as directed had elevated liver enzymes ALT and AST of 1.5 times the upper limit of the lab reference range or higher. Liver cells release certain types of enzymes upon cell death. This reflects pathological liver cell damage.
      Liver Failure

      Acetaminophen use is certainly not without risk. Acetaminophen overdose or chronic use is a known major cause of acute liver failure. There are over 600 drugs that contain acetaminophen, with Tylenol being the most widely recognized name brand. Tylenol/acetaminophen use is the leading worldwide cause of drug overdose and acute liver failure. It can happen as a result of a single overdose and even with recommended ongoing therapeutic doses below the 4,000 mg/day dose. One study called it a “therapeutic misadventure” when Tylenol use led to acute liver failure. Another study found that in the majority of acute liver failure cases was due to chronic use of Tylenol causing chronic poisoning. The number of cases of acute liver failure is certainly on the rise with the pervasive use of the drug. It has been known for nearly three decades that Tylenol is a toxic drug that depletes the liver’s antioxidants system.
      Acute liver failure occurs when 80-90 percent of the liver has sustained severe damage usually with no known liver disease. It occurs rapidly in days or weeks, with life threatening consequences. Not a good “therapeutic misadventure” to embark on. Several factors can increase the risk of acetaminophen induced liver failure. These include minor alcohol use or alcohol abuse, use of certain medications including antibiotics, NSAIDs (ibuprofen, Motrin, etc), and anti-seizure medications, viral infections like hepatitis A, B, and E, Epstein Barr virus, herpes simplex virus, and cytomegalovirus, and other problems.
      When acetaminophen is ingested, it must be detoxified through the major cytochrome P450 enzyme system in the liver. It uses the master antioxidant glutathione to do so. If glutathione levels are deficient, then processing the drug causes toxic mitochondrial damage and high levels of oxidative stress or inflammation. It eventually leads to liver cell death which then causes liver enzymes (ALT and AST) to elevate. The destructive cycle stops when the insults are removed or glutathione stores are replenished.. How well the body responds depends on how replenished and equipped your body is. You can get your glutathione status measured through blood tests from your health care provider.
      Alcohol Use and Tylenol

      Alcohol use is an obvious insult to the liver as a consequence of depleting mitochondria glutathione. However, the damage is easily ramped up when combined with medications like acetaminophen. The liver mitochondria experience a significant damaging blow to function when acetaminophen is combined with alcohol. In an animal study, liver damage was found within 6 weeks of acetaminophen and alcohol use. Think about this information in a more personal context – a glass of wine at dinner, a dose or two of Tylenol during the day because of an old nagging injury or some arthritis. How does this impact the repetitive strain that the medication and alcohol place on the mitochondria and liver of repeating this week after week or even longer?
      Fatty Liver Disease, Diabetes, Obesity and Tylenol Poses Risk to Mitochondria

      Tylenol/ acetaminophen affect the mitochondria within liver cells leading to higher levels of oxidative stress and free radicals. The mitochondria’s ability to aerobically do their job producing energy is compromised. This phenomenon can reverse itself when the toxin is removed. Now add in common epidemic level disorders that put a substantial strain on the mitochondria and liver function even without the strain of acetaminophen intake. Brand new research has identified that fatty liver disease, diabetes, and metabolic syndrome occurs with impairment in mitochondria function and in-turn creates a vicious cycle perpetuating itself. This leads to a marked increased risk for liver injury in those who have these underlying concerns and then take acetaminophen for ongoing aches and pains.

      The fact is Tylenol drug-induced liver injury affects mitochondria function on a large scale level with overdose, but it should make one wonder about the “subclinical” level insults. With the millions of Americans popping acetaminophen drugs for joint pain problems who have blood sugar, obesity, and fatty liver problems and the underlying mitochondria dysfunction in all of these arenas, it would appear like a train-wreck happening to the liver and body on an imperceptible level. And at what cost to the individual and the health care system?
      The underlying constant here is that obesity, diabetes, fatty liver disease and degenerative joint disease have mitochondria impairments present. At the same time, Tylenol intake impairs mitochondria function as does alcohol use. To tease apart all this information and put it into the confines of research studies is tricky, but certainly these various studies open the door to understanding dangerous unhealthy trends and consequences. This information should make one think twice about taking acetaminophen or Tylenol especially in context of higher risk situations that have been mentioned. We need to recognize that Tylenol is not a benign substance albeit immensely popular. It is a drug; a powerful drug often used without second thought.
      Other Factors Affecting Tylenol Toxicity

      Those who have gone through weight loss surgery are at higher risk of liver failure and toxicity from Tylenol or acetaminophen. Drugs are metabolized and absorbed differently as a consequence of the surgery. The same changes apply to nutritional status that affects liver function.
      Add another variable to mix of acetaminophen toxicity risks. A new study released last month uncovered an interesting finding that may impact millions. The animal study focused on liver toxicity induced by acetaminophen and how serotonin impacted liver health. Serotonin not only functions as a neurotransmitter in the brain, but is also involved with liver function and the development of disease. Serotonin can be helpful or harmful. It helps the liver repair and regenerate, but serotonin can be detrimental in certain cancers and some other liver disorders. In this study, the scientists caused acetaminophen toxicity in mice that had no other liver disorders. The mice that experienced acute liver failure were serotonin deficient. The mice with adequate serotonin levels did not experience liver failure with the same drug exposure. The serotonin helped to protect the liver from oxidative stress and inflammation. How this applies to humans has yet to be determined, but this information may potentially affect the millions who suffer from serotonin deficits (depression, anxiety, panic attacks, irritable bowel syndrome, sleep disorders, etc). The study did not look at serotonin prescription medications. Certainly, several concerns are raised with this information.
      Acetaminophen Toxicity Effects More Than Liver Function

      New research agrees with the questionable safety of acetaminophen use, but for different reasons. Research published in Expert Opinion Drug Safety in August 2015 provides the expert opinion that not only is acetaminophen toxic to the liver; it causes toxic damage to the gastrointestinal tract and heart. They also reported on the fact that acetaminophen is a poor pain reliever for osteoarthritis. Their expert opinion was that acetaminophen should be used at the lowest effective minimal dosage and for the shortest amount of time.. Their recommendations are far more conservative than the full dosage recommendation of 4,000 mg per day on a regular basis for osteoarthritis pain. The Journal of Pain Research also questions the toxicity effects on the gut and heart with acetaminophen. The authors recommended practitioners significantly evaluate risk versus benefits in all patients.
      The take away message from the British Medical Journal study and these other studies is that acetaminophen is not the best resource for chronic degenerative joint disease and neck and low back pain and has safety concerns. Acetaminophen/Tylenol poses increased threats to health especially with these other concerns. If you suffer from chronic spinal pain or arthritis and need to use medical support, talk with your health care provider and consider using the least amount of medication needed for the shortest period of time.
      Protecting the Liver with NAC and Adiponectin

      The standard medical treatment for Tylenol or acetaminophen injury is the use of N-acetyl cysteine (NAC). NAC is available as a nutritional supplement and is also naturally found in whey protein. NAC is fundamental for glutathione production and supports liver detoxification. In fact, new research shows that taking NAC with acetaminophen blocks toxic injury to the liver. Researchers proved that using the both medical treatment and nutritional support work well together. In fact, the authors recommended that industry standards change with acetaminophen administration. They recommended that all acetaminophen meds contain NAC to prevent any liver injury in any and all settings.
      New research shows that supporting the hormone adiponectin protects the liver from drug-induced acetaminophen liver failure and mitochondrial injury. Adiponectin works in harmony with leptin to regulate metabolism. When adiponectin is depleted, obesity, blood sugar problems, metabolic syndrome, inflammation, and oxidative stress are problematic. It is essential to support adiponectin, thereby providing significant protection to the liver and reducing risk.
      We need to take charge of our health before the economic burden of poor health runs this country into the ground. Taking medications that fail to help but rather cause acute or insidious chronic harm has been identified on the most popular pain ingredient on the market. If you rely on these types of medications to get you through the day, reconsider your approach. At least combine protective nutrients and a healthy adiponectin-leptin balance into your daily life. There are wonderful natural resources to help manage mild-moderate musculoskeletal pain and breakdown.
      Supportive nutrients include DHA, curcumin, boswellia, hyaluronic acid, vitamin D, and more. There are several nutrients that protect and support healthy mitochondria such as PQQ, acetyl-l-carnitine, lipoic acid, B vitamins, magnesium, resveratrol, coenzyme Q10 and many others. If your health status poses higher risk for drug injury, it is absolutely essential to work on weight management, blood sugar, and fatty liver problems. Wellness Resources provides many tools to help with weight management, blood sugar, and obesity that increase the risk of liver injury with Tylenol use. Don’t run the risk of liver failure and “therapeutic misadventure” from single isolated use or chronic use of the most common drug ingredient in America. There are many choices. Several have been identified. You choose the direction and consequences you face.


      More...
      Veritas Vos Liberabit

    2. #2
      horse's Avatar
      horse is offline Platinum
      Points: 5,391, Level: 47
      Level completed: 21%, Points required for next Level: 159
      Overall activity: 0%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience PointsGot three Friends
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      Awesome
       
      Join Date
      Jan 2015
      Posts
      610
      Points
      5,391
      Level
      47
      Rep Power
      56

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      acetaminophen is bad news
      old powerlifter/bench press specialist

    3. #3
      guns01's Avatar
      guns01 is online now ADMINISTRATOR
      Points: 108,602, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 99.9%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience PointsGot three Friends
      Awards:
      Activity Award
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2012
      Posts
      25,986
      Points
      108,602
      Level
      100
      Rep Power
      520

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      all nsaids are bad news if taken for a significant period of time. ice and rest that puppy and call it a day
      TGBSupplements REP

      https://www.tgbsupplements.com/

      Use code 'Baby1' for $5 off your order

    4. #4
      jipped genes's Avatar
      jipped genes is offline VET
      Points: 107,016, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 49.0%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience PointsGot three Friends
      is El Burro!
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Dec 2002
      Location
      Lone star state
      Posts
      18,607
      Points
      107,016
      Level
      100
      Rep Power
      474

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      works well for headaches but i do not use it often. knew a guy who committed suicide with tylenol and a bottle of vodka. destroyed his liver. was a horrible way to go. i think it is fine when used occasionally but overuse of most things is bad.

      ibuprofen is bad for the kidneys.

      aspirin is bad for the gut

      i guess it boils down to how bad the pain is
      "SHIAT BIOTCH, thats a big ass!"

      A clear concience is a sign of a bad memory.

      husband of the year

      moose riding maple syrup drinking flanel wearing canuck wannabe



    5. #5
      Aventia's Avatar
      Aventia is offline Platinum
      Points: 7,345, Level: 56
      Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 5
      Overall activity: 0%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience Points
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2014
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      73
      Points
      7,345
      Level
      56
      Rep Power
      67

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      Back in the day before studies on liver failure a max dosage of acetaminophen was 5000 daily. A couple of years ago it was 2000 and now I believe it is 1000.
      The majority of overdoses with addicts taking OXY is not the ox but the acetaminophen along with alcohol.

    6. #6
      BABY1's Avatar
      BABY1 is offline Mrs FUZO
      Points: 341,474, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 0%
      Awards:
      Blog Award
      is is planting seeds
       
      I am:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Oct 2003
      Location
      the Woods
      Posts
      29,908
      Points
      341,474
      Level
      100
      Blog Entries
      559
      Rep Power
      644

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      all depends on one's body. Some can handle a crapload of shit and others can't. I can't even handle the fillers in meds and supps
      Veritas Vos Liberabit

    7. #7
      Dzone's Avatar
      Dzone is offline Super Moderator
      Points: 118,339, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 44.0%
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Mar 2008
      Posts
      17,383
      Points
      118,339
      Level
      100
      Blog Entries
      2
      Rep Power
      500

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      Medical doctors rarely warn their patients about the dangers of tylenol and ibuprofen. Because they are part of the pharmaceutical industrial complex

    8. #8
      Aventia's Avatar
      Aventia is offline Platinum
      Points: 7,345, Level: 56
      Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 5
      Overall activity: 0%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience Points
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2014
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      73
      Points
      7,345
      Level
      56
      Rep Power
      67

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      Quote Originally Posted by Dzone View Post
      Medical doctors rarely warn their patients about the dangers of tylenol and ibuprofen. Because they are part of the pharmaceutical industrial complex
      Med Doctors know shit and many are financially compensated by the meds they prescribe. I highly doubt they would allow their wives\Husbands or children to take Tylenol above 500mgs daily.

      When I was rushed to the hospital with a ruptured muscle the first thing the attending Dr prescribed was either oral Tylenol\or injectable. I said fuck that give me 15mgs of Morphine and after the Morphine kicked in Life was good .

    9. #9
      BABY1's Avatar
      BABY1 is offline Mrs FUZO
      Points: 341,474, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 0%
      Awards:
      Blog Award
      is is planting seeds
       
      I am:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Oct 2003
      Location
      the Woods
      Posts
      29,908
      Points
      341,474
      Level
      100
      Blog Entries
      559
      Rep Power
      644

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      after my c-section morphine did nothing for the pain but make me puke. My body fights a lot of things so I just deal with it
      Veritas Vos Liberabit

    10. #10
      guns01's Avatar
      guns01 is online now ADMINISTRATOR
      Points: 108,602, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 99.9%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience PointsGot three Friends
      Awards:
      Activity Award
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2012
      Posts
      25,986
      Points
      108,602
      Level
      100
      Rep Power
      520

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      Quote Originally Posted by BABY1 View Post
      after my c-section morphine did nothing for the pain but make me puke. My body fights a lot of things so I just deal with it
      i dont get sick from them like you baby1 but i dont like the way they make me feel and sleep all the time so i just suck it up and take the pain as well
      TGBSupplements REP

      https://www.tgbsupplements.com/

      Use code 'Baby1' for $5 off your order

    11. #11
      BABY1's Avatar
      BABY1 is offline Mrs FUZO
      Points: 341,474, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 0%
      Awards:
      Blog Award
      is is planting seeds
       
      I am:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Oct 2003
      Location
      the Woods
      Posts
      29,908
      Points
      341,474
      Level
      100
      Blog Entries
      559
      Rep Power
      644

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      Dilaudid made me even worse after my kidney and hip surgeries. So it was dilaudid then Zofran right after,lol. Zofran is a miracle for nausea. I had a migraines last week that was so bad I was puking and Fuzo ran out and got me Zofran at the pharmacy. It takes that nausea away stat
      Veritas Vos Liberabit

    12. #12
      guns01's Avatar
      guns01 is online now ADMINISTRATOR
      Points: 108,602, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 99.9%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience PointsGot three Friends
      Awards:
      Activity Award
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2012
      Posts
      25,986
      Points
      108,602
      Level
      100
      Rep Power
      520

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      Quote Originally Posted by BABY1 View Post
      Dilaudid made me even worse after my kidney and hip surgeries. So it was dilaudid then Zofran right after,lol. Zofran is a miracle for nausea. I had a migraines last week that was so bad I was puking and Fuzo ran out and got me Zofran at the pharmacy. It takes that nausea away stat
      i like you live in constant pain but i have no issues like that with taking meds, i just choose not to do so unless it is absolutely unbearable and that doesnt happen very often. now i am down for finding alternates like rolling flossing bands and other methods as opposed to otc meds and regular meds. the flossing bands have brought my main pain issue way way down which i am very very happy about. i dread when i get to the point that the docs are predicting for mine but i am damn sure going to suck it up and give it hell until i get there which is hopefully 10-20 years down the road
      TGBSupplements REP

      https://www.tgbsupplements.com/

      Use code 'Baby1' for $5 off your order

    13. #13
      BABY1's Avatar
      BABY1 is offline Mrs FUZO
      Points: 341,474, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 0%
      Awards:
      Blog Award
      is is planting seeds
       
      I am:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Oct 2003
      Location
      the Woods
      Posts
      29,908
      Points
      341,474
      Level
      100
      Blog Entries
      559
      Rep Power
      644

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      i like you live in constant pain but i have no issues like that with taking meds, i just choose not to do so unless it is absolutely unbearable and that doesnt happen very often. now i am down for finding alternates like rolling flossing bands and other methods as opposed to otc meds and regular meds. the flossing bands have brought my main pain issue way way down which i am very very happy about. i dread when i get to the point that the docs are predicting for mine but i am damn sure going to suck it up and give it hell until i get there which is hopefully 10-20 years down the road
      You sound like you are doing great with what have been through guns and hopefully you will prove those docs wrong. If anyone can, you can! I know nothing about the flossing so I have to look at that. In the grand scheme of all things.. life is great and we are all blessed. I love to see and hear inspiring stories. Its also a big part of the reason that I will be going back and joining the gym where it is 80% elderly people when I am there. I love watching them. just like my Mom cant believe that my almost 80 year old stubborn kraut of an awesome Dad never sits still in spite of anything that may be wrong. thanks for your inspiration guns
      Veritas Vos Liberabit

    14. #14
      guns01's Avatar
      guns01 is online now ADMINISTRATOR
      Points: 108,602, Level: 100
      Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
      Overall activity: 99.9%
      Achievements:
      First 1000 Experience PointsGot three Friends
      Awards:
      Activity Award
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2012
      Posts
      25,986
      Points
      108,602
      Level
      100
      Rep Power
      520

      Default Re: Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      • Get the Fitness Geared
        Forum App Now!
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain

      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      • Tylenol Causes Liver Damage and Is Ineffective for Low Back and Neck Pain
      Quote Originally Posted by BABY1 View Post
      You sound like you are doing great with what have been through guns and hopefully you will prove those docs wrong. If anyone can, you can! I know nothing about the flossing so I have to look at that. In the grand scheme of all things.. life is great and we are all blessed. I love to see and hear inspiring stories. Its also a big part of the reason that I will be going back and joining the gym where it is 80% elderly people when I am there. I love watching them. just like my Mom cant believe that my almost 80 year old stubborn kraut of an awesome Dad never sits still in spite of anything that may be wrong. thanks for your inspiration guns
      check out the thread that maxseg put up about it. i added a bunch of videos that i have been doing and their are others out there as well for almost any part of your body. i ahve been doing it like a champ and it has helped me big time esp on my shoulders
      TGBSupplements REP

      https://www.tgbsupplements.com/

      Use code 'Baby1' for $5 off your order

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    Pro Wrists Straps
    Join us
    About us
    www.Fitnessgeared.com is a Bodybuilding Fitness health & Training Discussion forum for all levels from beginner to advanced. We offer everything from Nutrition, Supplements, Fat Loss, Weight Training, Dieting, to achieve your goals to get in the shape you want.