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Originally Posted by Uncle Ric

Guess what, he is a cheater. So what he is the goat regardless. Most of the time guys with the genetics to be the best are also lazy as fuck. It gives us normal guys a chance. BUT YOU COMBINE THE GENETICS WITH THE AMBITION AND DRIVE and the skies the limit.

i have a hard time giving him the goat because of the fact that it is proven he cheated at least once. like i said above he will always have that cloud over his achievements. i will say that payton manning is far better due to the fact that he never got caught cheating even if brady has more rings and better stats. he got caught cheating therefore he loses his status as goat