Next cycle...your input...

[Tatanka]

TweetLast cycle was 300mg of test. Varition of test e and c at roughly 150 of each. An entire array of peps, from MGF, IGF-DES & LR3, Ipam, GHRP-6, and CJC. I am planning for my next cycle 500mg test e, for 16 weeks, GH @ 2 IU 5 days per week throughout, and winny @ 20 mg per day for the last 4 weeks for the next cycle. All this with G6/CJC on GH off days + ipam PWO and IGF post. I have access to anything, but only have on hand the mentioned products above. What say ye? Should I add/delete anything?

[6p6]

TweetI don't see anything wrong with your cycle...its mild, affordable, and effective! I'm sure you will get some small tinkering advise like running gh 7 days or at 4iu etc etc but it looks good.

[alom]

TweetI would up your winny to 50mg and do 3ius of gh and use T-3 along with the gh

[Pittsburgh63]

TweetHow are you running you PWO peptides.. as far as order and dosing.. also, what IGF are you using?

[badcompany487]

TweetI think it looks good, im no peptide pro but as far as the juice the only thing I would personally change is up the winny dose closer to 50 a day but that's just an opinion, if 20 is what you like then there's nothing wrong with that. I'd maybe run a little more gh also, closer to 5ius a day

[Tatanka]

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How are you running you PWO peptides.. as far as order and dosing.. also, what IGF are you using?

I "have" DES and LR3, but current only use the LR3. I use it about 1 hour PWO at 100 mcg. I just bought DES to try it. That's the only pep I use PWO. But personally, I have been using a variety of peps for the last 6 months with little if any noticeable results. I'll be starting GH in about a month. If I have good results, I'll probably dump the peps, and feed my money into GH.

[Tatanka]

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I think it looks good, im no peptide pro but as far as the juice the only thing I would personally change is up the winny dose closer to 50 a day but that's just an opinion, if 20 is what you like then there's nothing wrong with that. I'd maybe run a little more gh also, closer to 5ius a day

I think I will bump it a bit. Only reason I Started so low is because my liver panel came back a little high. Think it's mainly because I don't get enough water, but upped the water since so we will see on my next panel. I'll have it done just before I start this cycle. Did orals before and like a true noob, didn't cycle it right. Just hoping I didn't do any permanent damage to my liver. As far as the GH, this is my first cycle. I will dose until I get the infamous finger tingle. If its 2iu, I'll stop there. If it takes more, I'll dose higher til I get it. I figure my body will adjust over time and as it does, I'll have to up the dose any way. My boy has been on GH for the last 9 months and reports he's never felt better. I'm soooo jealous. Can't wait to get started.

[BABY1]

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[Tatanka]

TweetStill about 3 1/2 weeks out from this cycle. I will post a log once I start.

TweetHow many cycles have you run? I ask because I am a firm believer in running the least amount of gear for the longest amount of time while still making gains.GH IMHO should be held off till later stages of cycling as I really don't feel its necessary to make gains during the earlier cycles.There should be no reason that you cant make great gains off of a basic test cycle and even an oral like winny if your diet and training are on target.

I agree about the others in regards to upping the winny though.

As for the peptides,not really my game so I cant really say with an accurate opinion from personal experience.

[Tatanka]

TweetOnly my second cycle, but been on HRT for last 8 months with about a two month period of 400mg test per week.

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Only my second cycle, but been on HRT for last 8 months with about a two month period of 400mg test per week.

With that being said then,you should be able to make quality mass and strength gains on basic cycles without the need for GH.Why jump into running GH when its not needed at your stage of the game? You know what I mean? Not knocking your choices brother and its your's to make but why not ride out cycling on the least amount for as long as possible? I see so many times guys getting advice to hop on all sorts of compounds when its really not needed.It always amazes me to hear time and again guys telling others who are early in the game to stack multiple compounds to make gains and never once ask what their diets are like or what their training is like.You'd be amazed at how simple changes to your training and more so your diet can make HUGE amounts of differences in the amount of quality gains you can and will make.

Not saying that is the case with you because I have no idea as to your training or diet or history but it may be worth looking into before adding other compounds to your cycles.Try upping your caloric intake and really keeping track of your macro's for the day.If you're not making the gains that you are looking for,this may be all you need.Also,try changing up your training routine.I am a firm believer is always changing things up so your muscles never get used to any one routine or program.

If you cant grow with 500mg of test ew along with 50mg of winny ed at your stage of the game,then adding more compounds is NOT the answer.Trust me.

TweetI posted up some good reads on cycling you may be interested in reading..............

https://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/f4/cycles-newbie-advanced-98445.html

https://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/f...ols-91588.html

[daved150]

Tweeti agree with fist....i'd hold off on the gh and save it for down the road...see how you respond to everything else first....

[Tatanka]

TweetI hear you FIST. Thanks for the advice.