Next Cycle Plans

[alluprbdy]

TweetHey fella's I'm wrapping up a real short cycle of prop only. I was intending to run it longer but the gear seems to be under dosed so I decided to run it 6 weeks. I till be going back on Jan 8th with a different brand see how it goes. Pretty excited about this cycle first time with Eq and first time with T3 should be a blast.

1-5 Dbol 40mg or 50mg/day (havent made that call yet)
1-15 Test Enth 600mg/wk
1-15 Eq 800mg/wk
11-15 T3

Going to give a shot at running HCG throughout insted of my usual regimen t'wards the end of the cycle as a boost.

HCG 1-6 750ius/wk
HCG 9-15 750ius/wk

Normal PCT regimen to follow.

[badcompany487]

TweetSounds pretty solid man

[daved150]

Tweetlooks pretty solid...i dont know that i'd personaly run eq for only 15weeks...seems to me its more of a long haul aas. maybe 18min. also, i dont see SHYT until i'm over a gram a week (1000ml)...seems that higher dose's are needed, but you may react much better so 800 isnt a bad starting point. if only running 15weeks, maybe front load? i dont know...just adding my .02

[alluprbdy]

TweetYa I can always go longer 15 is just a starting point, I usually am ready to get off by then though. I will play with the dose a little too if I dont respond to 800 I'll bump it up.

[Michelle Hayden]

TweetLooks like a solid cycle hun, but it looks as though you are looking for initial gains and to jumpstart it with the dbol, but the rest looks as though your plan may be to get as much quality lean mass gains as possible. Have you considered possibly using prop instead of the test e, as it will not only hit you faster, but you will typically not see as much water retention using it instead. You can actually run it every other day or third day and not have to inject as much..or even try the karachi if you can get them.. They are fantastic for lean mass gains and i know alot of really big guys using the Oma's. Just my thoughts..T3 imo really needs to be analyzed by the individual before use. Another option would be to use clen instead, as it will now screw with your male endocrine system..and help you to recover better, where as T3 could possibly hamper that. Hos your pct look? Props to you guys! I could never run such mass cycles. I kinda envy u.

[alluprbdy]

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Looks like a solid cycle hun, but it looks as though you are looking for initial gains and to jumpstart it with the dbol, but the rest looks as though your plan may be to get as much quality lean mass gains as possible. Have you considered possibly using prop instead of the test e, as it will not only hit you faster, but you will typically not see as much water retention using it instead. You can actually run it every other day or third day and not have to inject as much..or even try the karachi if you can get them.. They are fantastic for lean mass gains and i know alot of really big guys using the Oma's. Just my thoughts..T3 imo really needs to be analyzed by the individual before use. Another option would be to use clen instead, as it will now screw with your male endocrine system..and help you to recover better, where as T3 could possibly hamper that. Hos your pct look? Props to you guys! I could never run such mass cycles. I kinda envy u.

I use to love prop, but these days with work and life EOD hits are not happening. I'm on prop now and hate it. Been years since I ran it but I am much busier now so doesnt fit my life schedule anymore. I only look to gain lean mass as I am a lean bulker never bulk up above 12% BF all year. I am only using the dbol as a kick start and for the fact that dbol is awesome. I run aromasin thru out to keep water retention down as I hate the look. T3 doesnt really scare me I feel pretty comfortable. All this stuff could hurt you and I realize that. My PCT is pretty normal HCG 750iu's a week thru out with a short break in the middle since you arent supposed to run it for 15 weeks straight, followed by Nolva post 40/40/20/20. Not my first rodeo as they say.

[daved150]

Tweetwell michelle your also not 225lb!!! lol

[Michelle Hayden]

TweetYeah Daved, i know ***sarcastic***. Well..it prob wouldnt look very good on me huh...

well michelle your also not 225lb!!! lol

[jamescb77]

Tweetlooks pretty good man. I am kinda with dave as 15 seems a little low for eq but you will get some solid gains from it. Here is the real kicker though. when you come off at 15 weeks that test is gonna clear your system in 2-3 weeks that eq isn't going to clear for 4-6 weeks. I suggest running the test 2-3 weeks longer than the eq due to this.

[alluprbdy]

TweetI dont follow that train of thought anymore, everything I've read over the past year or two a lot of people dont use that methodology anymore. The old wait 14 days after test to start PCT, etc. I start PCT for prop the day after I do my last pin, test I wait maybe 3 or 4 days max. Honestly as trial and error now I have faster recoveries than ever doing it this way. As my doctor buddy told me waiting for your levels to go to zero before kickstarting your balls back into gear?! And ya know I listen to most everything he says to me because he never steers me wrong. He was right again and I'm telling you, if you start following that you will recover faster than ever.

[alluprbdy]

TweetI dont follow that train of thought anymore, everything I've read over the past year or two a lot of people dont use that methodology anymore. The old wait 14 days after test to start PCT, etc. I start PCT for prop the day after I do my last pin, test I wait maybe 3 or 4 days max. Honestly as trial and error now I have faster recoveries than ever doing it this way. As my doctor buddy told me waiting for your levels to go to zero before kickstarting your balls back into gear?! And ya know I listen to most everything he says to me because he never steers me wrong. He was right again and I'm telling you, if you start following that you will recover faster than ever.

[jamescb77]

Tweeti think what i said and what i meant came out in 2 different ways. I agree with starting pct right after your cycle ends. there is no reason to wait till you crash lol. what i was saying is extend the test 2 week past the eq so that they both cut out at the same time roughly and will help in a better recovery rather. Im 100% with you about PCT soon and early. Hell i start tribulus 2 weeks before my last shot. Seems to really get htings going.

[daved150]

Tweetit takes the eq longer to leave your system than test, is what james is saying...

[skinnyman]

TweetIMO i would add some arimidex at .25-1mg/day.

[alluprbdy]

TweetI prefer aromasin and run it at 12.5eod