new cycle

[gymrat4life]

TweetiI need some opinion,..... and suggestions plz

ok here the plan: masteron 1-5weeks at 400mg per week (x2 shot week)
milk-thisal 1-3weeks not sure how many to take 1 pill ed
D-bol 3-9weeks at 40-60mg (10mg) split during day
Oral Tern 8-11weeks 500mcg ed (not sure how to take split it up or just before training)

I know the masteron and dbol kinda conflict with each other but I really don't bloat so I thought Id try.

Also some PCT suggestions as D-bol is low dose and Mast does not aromatize

Im currently 5'6 at 175-180ibs lean but not hard think i should have some sold gains hopefully.
I have never tried Mast or Tren before and all products are Geneza and have never tried that UGL

All help and suggestions greatly appreciated Thanks.

[Michelle Hayden]

TweetMast you have to be at a very low bf to see any result..Most guys will use tren e or a with prop because of the half life is short and very little water..Of course diet is very important to use very little added sodium in your diet and of course lay off simple carb and refined sugars. Sooo...Tren/Prop and maybe some clen at the end to get you even dryer..but keep in mind to drink plenty of fluids..especially h20. Dbol with mast imo is defeating what you are wanting to achieve. You simply dont need it.

[FUZO]

TweetSo this cycle is
MAST
DBOL
WHAT IS TERN 500MCG DO YOU MEAN TREN 500MG A WEEK AND WHAT KIND OF TREN, ACE OR TREN-E


AND I WOULDNT NOT RECOMMEND YOU DO DBOL AND MASTERON AT ALL MAKES NO SENSE. MASTERON NEEDS TO BE RUN FOR A MINIMUM 1O WEEKS IMO. SO IF YOUR LOOKING TO USE MASTERON AND TREN ACE I WOULD PRESUME ALSO USE PROP AS MICHELLE SAID

12 WEEK CYCLE OF THESE 3 ANABOLICS AND RUN THEM 3X A WEEK IF YOU WANT OR IF YOU DONT MIND POKES EOD BUT YOU WILL FEEL LIKE A PIN CUSHION. BUT PLEASE DO NOT RUN DBOL AND MASTERON TOGETHER,DBOL IS FOR BULK, MAST IS FOR CUTTING,TREN ACE IS FOR CUTTING. TAKE MY ADVICE AND RUN THOSE 3 FOR 12 WEEKS AND YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY. AND INSTEAD OF MILK THISTLE USE LIV52 and get it here its much better https://www.herbalprovider.com/liver-care-liv-52.html



MAST 100MG
PROP 100MG
TREN ACE 100MG

[airagee23]

TweetWheres your test?

[ketsugo]

Tweet

Wheres your test?

Im wondering too?

Great info here- The general populace does agree about the dbol. However there are a few of us that have found success in using it precontest even- Im trying to remember what pro used to as well, but It evades me. Because you can lose power and size when dieting and training- One of my teachers turned me on to it- because It can help you keep both while doing so- People that have crossed over to the dark side have shown that they can come in shredded to the bone- glutes, erectors all on dbol. Which you will always always see me chime in to people that there is no such thing as a cutting cycle cuz THERE AINT ha haha.
Masteron WILL shut you down too- therefore you would be foolish to forgoe PCT- thats just plain misinformation. However , listen to what MH and Fuzo say they got some important advice there about tren and prop etc. Sorry , I know I come across a bit condescending but Im working on it LOL- I sincerely just want to help and provide my two cents. As far as organizing the cycle- I agree with FUZO on the point that If I were to cycle - Id do Dbol weeks 1-4 and use masteron at the end to switch off. Maybe, begin 2-4 and through the whole cycle if you are set on using it. Test Prop is good if you dont mind pinning- Did you have Test as a base already? Its a common misconception to think you dont need Test - Personally I advise my clients to base every cycle around Test, you can use other compounds to control bloat, including other AAS, like how MH mentioned Tren or winny can dry you or your anti-e can do so as well. You will shut down no matter what, any site that states otherwise has not done any research or real world assesment

[daved150]

Tweet

So this cycle is
MAST
DBOL
WHAT IS TERN 500MCG DO YOU MEAN TREN 500MG A WEEK AND WHAT KIND OF TREN, ACE OR TREN-E


AND I WOULDNT NOT RECOMMEND YOU DO DBOL AND MASTERON AT ALL MAKES NO SENSE. MASTERON NEEDS TO BE RUN FOR A MINIMUM 1O WEEKS IMO. SO IF YOUR LOOKING TO USE MASTERON AND TREN ACE I WOULD PRESUME ALSO USE PROP AS MICHELLE SAID

12 WEEK CYCLE OF THESE 3 ANABOLICS AND RUN THEM 3X A WEEK IF YOU WANT OR IF YOU DONT MIND POKES EOD BUT YOU WILL FEEL LIKE A PIN CUSHION. BUT PLEASE DO NOT RUN DBOL AND MASTERON TOGETHER,DBOL IS FOR BULK, MAST IS FOR CUTTING,TREN ACE IS FOR CUTTING. TAKE MY ADVICE AND RUN THOSE 3 FOR 12 WEEKS AND YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY. AND INSTEAD OF MILK THISTLE USE LIV52 and get it here its much better https://www.herbalprovider.com/liver-care-liv-52.html



MAST 100MG
PROP 100MG
TREN ACE 100MG

bingo...drop the dbol and go prop/tren/mast...or just prop-tren

[ketsugo]

TweetMy advice thoughts
option one:

Test Prop weeks 1-12
Dbol weeks 1-4
Masteron weeks 3-12 or Tren
( winstrol suspension)

clenbuterol weeks 2,3/ 6,7/ 10,11 + (14/15 during PCT)
T-3 on off weeks of clen (this can control bloat too)

NPP another choice- theres so many- Training and your diet are FAR MORE important than your compounds

[gymrat4life]

TweetThanks for the advice all is appreciated and as far as the ten I have It is an oral tren which comes from Geneza pharms. The dose is 250 mcg not mg. All my gear is from geneza

10ml/200 Masteron
5mg/200 tabs D-bol
250mcg/100 tabs Oral Tren
all by geneza

Thanks fo all the info I did do 1st shot last sat of mast but guess Ill hold off till I get some Test E or see If I can get sustanon was just anxious to start.

Any other advise is welcomed