Tweeti think werdum is as easy a fight to fedor as nelson is to brock. both can beat you but thats not the likely outcome
TweetI never really thought of it from this point of view. It's interesting that Fedor immediately asked for Werdum again (Werdum is turning him down too) but Brock is asking for Roy?? Hmmm....They say you see the true heart of a champion only after they've been knocked down. After all, how can you gauge how well a man responds to adversity if he's never even been tested? Well, Brock Lesnar has been tested in the Octagon - and found wanting.
Against Shane Carwin he ran across the cage to avoid thunderous blows. Against Cain Velasquez he wasn't even allowed that much dignity, pirouetting and cartwheeling around the Octagon like he was part of a drunken dance recital. You'd expect a true champion and a title contender to be clamoring to get back in the cage with his conqueror. To want to prove he is as good as the hype, to reestablish his place in the pecking order. But there's a question about who Brock Lesnar is at his core.
Simply put, Brock is a bully. When backed into a corner his instinct isn't to take the hard path. It's to find prey he thinks he can conquer - and attack. Bryan Alvarez, editor of the Wrestling Observer's sister newsletter Figure Four Weekly, says Brock isn't looking to rematch Carwin or get a return bout with Velasquez. Instead, Lesnar reportedly has set his sites on Roy Nelson.
Now there's nothing wrong with Roy Nelson. He's a talented fighter, a mid-level heavyweight contender who is most famous for hiding a 205 pound potential champion inside a 265 pound rolly polly package. But isn't it a little odd for a former champion, the UFC's flagship fighter, to be challenging a guy who's best career win was against prospect Brendan Schaub? Nelson isn't a top-shelf contender. He's a guy who has fallen short time and again against the top level competition he's faced, including a recent beating incurred at the hands of heavyweight contender Junior dos Santos.
Contrast Lesnar's approach to the recently vanquished heavyweight kingpin Fedor Emelianenko. Fedor didn't respond to his loss to Fabricio Werdum by challenging Jeff Monson. He asked for a rematch with the man who made him tap:
Quote:
"Certainly I would like to have a rematch with Fabricio. If he agrees, I would love to do that. The one who doesn't fall doesn't stand up. It happens that I was made kind of an idol. Everybody loses. That happens. I'm a normal human being, as are all of us. If it is God's will, the next fight I'll win."
So why is Lesnar challenging a fighter who isn't in the title hunt? Because he thinks it's easier. He thinks he can roll right over the fat kid - and he's probably right. But even asking for this fight shows plenty about Lesnar and where he is mentally. This isn't the confident move of a fighter on his way back up the ladder. This is the path of the bully, the more favorable route, and the mindset of a fighter still a little shell shocked after consecutive shellackings.
On a side note....You have to love the Roy Nelson Rolly Polly comment...I thought that was hilarious!
"He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
"I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)
Tweeti think werdum is as easy a fight to fedor as nelson is to brock. both can beat you but thats not the likely outcome
TweetThe difference being Werdum has the belt....Nelson does not. Fedor wanted an immediate title shot to get his belt back. Brock asked for Nelson.
The thread title was the title of the article....I didn't come up with that. I don't want anyone to think I am Brock bashing. I don't agree with that article that much just because I am not one that really believes in immediate rematches like that. I think if you get beat fair and square, you should fall down the ladder and have to work your way back up...no matter what. That is why I didn't like the fact that they were considering giving Sonnen an immediate rematch....he lost fair and square....tapped to make it even more so.
"He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
"I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)
TweetThis is just media bul shit .There is nothing wrong for brock to ask to fight nelson
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TweetNELSON MAY SURPRISE HIM TOO...MMA HAS A WAY OF DOING THAT!
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I agree. I mean, it may just be Brock realizing that he needs some tune up fights before going after the belt again. The bad thing is it doesn't matter if Brock beats Roy or if Brock beats a beginner in the division....he will get a rematch after that win no matter what because he is a cash cow for the UFC.
Agreed. Nelson is much tougher than many people give him credit for. He has a few different ways to win the fight.
"He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
"I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)
TweetBrock should have looked to fight Carwin again or even Mir. Nelson just got out of TUF. This is supposed to be the Baddest Man on the Planet. I mean look at BJ, hes lost twice in a row and now hes moving up a weight class to fight Hughes. I dont think Brock is nearly as good as billed and he knows it and so does Dana. Dana cant have Brock losing again plain and simple. Pretty weak though that a win over Big Country can get you an immediate rematch.
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I think the UFC wants Brock to fight Mir again for the 3rd time and if I had to guess, that is the fight that will happen. This is just Brock asking to fight Roy. The immediate rematch talk is just my opinion. I think they will want Brock getting back in a title match as soon as possible if he wins just because he is such a big draw. If he were to fight Roy next and lose....I would almost bet that the next time we saw Brock, he would be back in the WWE.
"He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
"I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)
TweetMan, if he lost to Roy Nelson, that would be a serious fall from grace.