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    ok guys, i need a good fat burner to use for 3 weeks cause i have to a photo shoot in LA. i need to keep my calories high, because i start a competition diet in 4 weeks, and want to keep my weight up. My diet is clean and high in calories, i have also started to up the cardio.
    what do you think?

  • #2
    Some Clen, ECA, Xenadrine with lot's of cardio 1st thing in the morning too.

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    • #3
      it needs to be ephedrine free this round!! Doc said so!!
      any other idea's

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      • #4
        you could try that ephedra free version of Xenadrine...a lot of women use nolvadex when cutting up...just some ideas

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        • #5
          nolva, really? how good is that?

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          • #6
            clen is over the counter?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by iisahillbilly
              nolva, really? how good is that?
              i'm not totally sure the specifics of how much or how long for a woman...those are questions you could ask in the women's forum for some answers...but for women dieters, nolvadex definitely makes losing those last few difficult lbs a lot easier

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              • #8
                shoot..forgot you were asking for otc fat burners...nolvadex isn't over the counter but is easily attainable

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                • #9
                  is the ephedra free xenadrine really that effective?
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                  • #10
                    Cardio.

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                    • #11
                      Ephedrine free EFX, used it a few times, found that it cut appetite, and was very diuretic oriented. So, probably over a month or two it does work, never did it that long to find out.

                      IMHO, you're best bet is too eat super clean and keep sodium below 1,000 mg a day, and drink 1-1/2 gallon a water a day. You will be pissing all day long yet you will be holding almost no water under your skin, this ups the definition and gives you a clearer view of amount of fat holding.

                      Also, isahillbilly remember alot of your posts from FB, so congratulations on photo shoot and your upcoming competition.
                      Remember don't forget the power of muscle memory, if you feel the need to lower calories and cut a little, due to the fact you workout all the time and are disciplined you can fill out again in a week.

                      Also, very simple solution that works is a cup of coffee and an aspirin before AM cardio. This will not produce jitters and wears off gradually by lunch.

                      Good Luck
                      Hoped That Helped

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                      • #12
                        yellow, i am doing cardio!! i just need to add something to the mix!
                        I didnt think clen. was legal! where can you get it?
                        I have tried the efx and wasnt that good, at least for my body.
                        i guess if the nolva is a no go, since it's not otc.
                        thanks

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                        • #13


                          Liquaclen @120mcg/ml 30ml for 80/90 bucks so pretty cheap bro and ive heard its good stuff - Its backordered at research kits right now though
                          Only plants grow naturally

                          Var 60mg ED 1-16
                          Test Enth 750mg EW 1-14
                          EQ 600mg EW 1-14
                          Nolva 20mg ED
                          Femara 1.25mg ED
                          Clen - ?????

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                          • #14
                            Nolva work's only for woman because lower's estrogen which is "responsible" for accumulating fat on hips and belly.
                            I would suggest cardio.

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                            • #15
                              damn that clen is to much money!!! and jesus christ i said i am doing cardio!!!
                              what do ya'll think about lean systems 7? havent heard to much about it.

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