Reply With QuoteTweetI think a 20 week cycle is too much for a first time user. I also dont think you need the winny or fina are needed at this stage.
just run the Test/deca the way youve got it, you should get awesome gains from this stack alone.
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TweetHi guys im new to this board but have been working out for awhile, my stats are 5'11 218 around 12- 13% bodyfat. Im 19 yrs old and have been training for the last 5 years. I think some of you will think that im too young for AAS but i think that im ready for it. I have been seriously planning this cycle for the past year and have thought about using AAS ages ago.
This is my planned cycle:
500 mgs test enthanate/weeks 1-12
400 mgs deca/weeks 1-12
hcg weeks 12-14
clen weeks 12-14
75 mg winny eod weeks 14-20
75 mg fina eod 14-20
with nolvadex and liquidex on hand and proper clomid therapy afterwards. Do you think a 20 week cycle is too much or would it be ok.
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TweetI think a 20 week cycle is too much for a first time user. I also dont think you need the winny or fina are needed at this stage.
just run the Test/deca the way youve got it, you should get awesome gains from this stack alone.
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Tweetquite a bit for your first IMO. do the test and deca 12 weeks and then plan a cutting cycle with the winny and fina.
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TweetExactly, i hate what Winny does to me. No need for 17aa's until injectables quit working. Yes, you probaly are too young, but i did my first cycle when i was 17. I know how it is, everyone here can tell you your too young, but youll do it anyway. So, i would hit either Test only or a Test/EQ or Test/Deca. I would rather see you use Test only, at 400mg ew. If not, 400mg Test/400mg EQ, or 400mg Test/300mg Deca.
BTW,
anyone else notice all the "first cycle" posts?
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Tweetme too.Originally posted by prolangtum
I would rather see you use Test only, at 400mg ew
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Tweettest only will give you good results. eat your face off, train crazy and rest
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Tweetno, please dont eat your face, dont waste a good body to a bad face, j/kOriginally posted by morebeefplease
test only will give you good results. eat your face off, train crazy and rest
Shoot for 20-25 cals per lb of bodyweight, your metabolism at 19 should be able to handle it. And yes, try to eat clean, i can honestly say 4k clean calories will yield better bulk gains than 3k clean 1k junk. I have done both.
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TweetOriginally posted by prolangtum
BTW,
anyone else notice all the "first cycle" posts?
That time of the year. 19 is too young and you cant say if you 'think you're ready' because you have no clue. And thats a pissy planned out cycle too.
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TweetIm sorry i cant read thru your innuendo, you think he should start cycling at 19?:pOriginally posted by YellowJacket
That time of the year. 19 is too young and you cant say if you 'think you're ready' because you have no clue. And thats a pissy planned out cycle too.
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Tweetsince most of you think i should wait i will since you guys know a hell of a lot more than i do. Prolly wait another year and then do just a 12 weeker of test/deca. Thanks alot for your advice guys i really appreciate it.
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TweetWow, teens must be a changin. If i thought it was a good idea to take a dump on my living room floor, no one could have told me different at 19. If you do wait, props to you. 218 and 12-13% bf is pretty good for 19.
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Tweetbro for real you are to young for any cycle nevermind a 20week cycle i would wait a few years
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TweetExcellent! At least some teens are mature! I waited till I was 35 before starting my first cycle. Good job bro! You show the rest of the youngun's how mature, sensible people should act!Originally posted by BABY ARNOLD
since most of you think i should wait i will since you guys know a hell of a lot more than i do. Prolly wait another year and then do just a 12 weeker of test/deca. Thanks alot for your advice guys i really appreciate it.
At 19, your body is producing plenty of it's own Testosterone...no need for AS yet. Your diet can give you plently of size....check out the nutrition forum for some great bulking diets.
When you are ready, the standard bulking cycle of Test and Deca would rock for you!
In the meantime, keep reading and learning here.
Again, great job and good luck!
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TweetAgain guys thanks for all the responses they are really appreciated, and not all teens are immature and some do really listen to the advice of others, at least i do anyway
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