IF THATS ALL HE IS GOING TO DO IS TAKE YOU DOWN THEN WHY EVEN WATCH HIM FIGHT. HIS LEGACY IS GOING TO BE KNOW AS A MMA FIGHTER WHO COULD ONLY WIN BY TAKING YOU DOWN AND NOT BY WINNING STANDING UP AND FIGHTING.EVEN JOE ROGAN COMMENTED ON GSP TAKE DOWN SHIT.I DIDNT BUY IT KNOWING THIS IS WHAT WOULD PROBABLY HAPPEN. IF YOU GSP FANS ACCEPT HIM WINING BY TAKEDOWNS THEN HEY GOOD FOR YOU GUYS ATLEAST A CHAMPION LIKE BJ PENN OR SILVA WHO BOTH HAVE GREAT STAND UP AND WILL BANG WITH YOU
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Just like I said if you gsp fans like that all he does is take fighters down then hey good for you guys like I said. To me a all around fighter should be able to stand and bang and not to be afraid. But see gsp doesnt do that he knows he cant stand with hardy so he does what he can onkly do is take you down.So is he a complete well rounded fighter,HELL NO. But he wins and I guess he can live with that. The Mr takedown champ wins again by takedownsDisclaimer: Steroid use is illegal in a vast number of countries around the world. This is not without reason. Steroids should only be used when prescribed by your doctor and under close supervision. Steroid use is not to be taken lightly and we do not in any way endorse or approve of illegal drug use. The information is provided on the same basis as all the other information on this site, as informational/entertainment value.
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It's not just Fuzo, everyone that watched it with me (all GSP fans) said the same thing. He fights safe. That is the difference between fighters like GSP and BJ. BJ will beat you at your best game just to show you that he can. GSP would never do that. Tonight was a perfect example of what I mean by GSP not having great standup. This was his perfect opportunity to show his standup, but he didn't. His standup is good but nowhere near great.
GSP has been my 2nd favorite fighter forever, but fights like tonight (IMO) hurt his legacy more than it helps it. Hardy was a fighter that many thought had no place in the octagon with GSP.....and it went to decision. It was not a good night for GSP.
And this is coming from a few GSP fans, so it's not hate."He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
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Originally posted by FUZO View PostJust like I said if you gsp fans like that all he does is take fighters down then hey good for you guys like I said. To me a all around fighter should be able to stand and bang and not to be afraid. But see gsp doesnt do that he knows he cant stand with hardy so he does what he can onkly do is take you down.So is he a complete well rounded fighter,HELL NO. But he wins and I guess he can live with that. The Mr takedown champ wins again by takedownsGovernment is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. George Washington
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Originally posted by tn94z View PostIt's not just Fuzo, everyone that watched it with me (all GSP fans) said the same thing. He fights safe. That is the difference between fighters like GSP and BJ. BJ will beat you at your best game just to show you that he can. GSP would never do that. Tonight was a perfect example of what I mean by GSP not having great standup. This was his perfect opportunity to show his standup, but he didn't. His standup is good but nowhere near great.
GSP has been my 2nd favorite fighter forever, but fights like tonight (IMO) hurt his legacy more than it helps it. Hardy was a fighter that many thought had no place in the octagon with GSP.....and it went to decision. It was not a good night for GSP.
And this is coming from a few GSP fans, so it's not hate.
Wow tnz I thought you were going to rip me a new ass,lol but i'm happy you see what I see and many others see about gsp.And I know your a Gsp fan. And I was one of those guys who thought he shouldnt of had a fight with Gsp but changed my mind.I wanted so bad for Gsp to show the world he would beat hardy by his own game stand up and pussied out and took him down again and again. Now cmon who wants to pay and see that all the time now. I think after this fight it hurts him and he either has to go up in weight or stand and bang with kozDisclaimer: Steroid use is illegal in a vast number of countries around the world. This is not without reason. Steroids should only be used when prescribed by your doctor and under close supervision. Steroid use is not to be taken lightly and we do not in any way endorse or approve of illegal drug use. The information is provided on the same basis as all the other information on this site, as informational/entertainment value.
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Who do you think GSP should fight next to shut him up? Fuzo?
GSP fights to win and WHO doesn't? All the fighters do what they do best, whether it stand up or take down. GSP does what he has to do to keep/defend the belt and ultimately get the bigger pay cheque in the end. Plain and simple. What's there not to get?
I'm sure he doesn't give to shits about his legacy right now...why because I'm almost positive he will be in the game for while YET. Although were talking about his legacy right now??
If you find his fights bring maybe don't watch him next time
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Boring? that was one of the most lopsided fights in UFC history.... One judge had 50-43.. thats unheard of.. if your a real fan of the gme you would have loved that fight...they didnt stand up much, but GSP won that part of the fight as well... you have to give it to Hardy, anyone else would have tapped out in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd.. rounds.. GSP could have won a standup only fight ... but its MMA.. not boxing"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy"...................Benjamin Franklin
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If you find his fights bring maybe don't watch him next time
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Well I for one was pulling for Hardy but I would have 100% rather seen him get KTFO rather than the boring fight I saw.
Yes GSP is by FAR the best wrestler in the WW division. It just seems honestly like he is scared to stand since the Serra incident. Yea he does do what he has to in order to win, but this is entertainment and as the consumer I was not satisfied last night. I don't know anyone who has the strength to match up with the wrestling of GSP in that division right now. Koscheck if he could improve perhaps.
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Hummm talented and smart fighter then he is.... what more is there to say. He followed his game plan obviously. Is that not what they all do before a fight? figure out the what other opponents all about and capitalize on there weakness. I guess Harding should of figure he be taken to the ground and worked better on his ground game... but GSP dominate in the regard. GSP needs to work on his stand up? and Harding on his ground game lol Boils down to WHO wins in the end!!
Originally posted by FUZO View Postbull shit even gsp said in a interview after the fight he wasnt going to stand with hardy because that was hardys strong point and that was a direct quote from gsp on ufc.com
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You can't blame GSP for doing what he did and that is not what we are doing. But he fights not to lose, he doesn't fight to win. In his earlier days, he would have stood with Hardy but I think Serra has him gun shy now against anyone that has some standup.
Shiz, it was a very good performance and he followed his game plan perfectly I am sure...but he isn't as exciting as he used to be plain and simple. It was very lopsided, but that is only because it was kept on the ground. If the Palharres/Drwal fight would have stayed standing, it would have been just as lopsided because Palharres has no standup at all.
Anyway, GSP did an awesome job doing what he did, but it's not what he used to be...and he is supposed to be getting better??
Mr.Ontario...all of the legacy talk is coming from GSP himself, not us fans. The only reason it is brought up is because he talks about it in every interview that he has."He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
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Just because he didnt stand a bang with him doesnt mean he's scared or fighting "not to lose".. he fought a good smart fight.. I dont ever hear anyone say that someone was "scared to wrestle or grapple" with someone if they end up standing the whole fight and using take down defense.. there is no difference.. this is M M A.. not boxing, not kickboxing, not street fighting.. you need to be proficient in ALL aspects of your game because thats what MMA is.. You cannot say that GSP would or woudnt have won a "boxing or kickboxing" match with Hardy because its not boxing or kickboxing.... Personally, I think GSP is a MUCH better boxer then you guys give him credit for.. go back and watch ALL of his fights.. I personally think that he would beat Hardy in a kickboxing match.. lets face it, Hardy was just out of his league and did not deserve a title shot.. he should have fought KOS first who would have beat him and ended the nonsense.. I'm guessing GSP's next fight will probably be a rematch with KOS when/if he beats Daley... KOS is the only one to give GSP any competition in the past couple years.. I would like to see one of these 185ers try and cut down to 170 and fight him.."Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy"...................Benjamin Franklin
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