help with first cycle ideas

[Robey]

TweetNewbie here. First cycle, thinking of clen- deca d- t3. What do you think?

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[BossDJ02]

Tweetyou need to give us more info bro. stats, goals, experience, training, etc. do a lil more research and ull find all that u need.

[Massive1]

TweetIf you're a fat body you might not want that deca.

[prolangtum]

TweetI think you have no test in there, therefore you have no cycle. My generic recomendation is 400mg of test and 300mg of Deca or 400mg of EQ per week. But your stats and goals would be real helpful. If this is indeed your first cycle, see hwo your body reacts to the drugs, as far as body mass changes, i would not run T-3 unless you have hit a real platuea in weight loss, and you have done previous cutting cycles. Clen is ok, but i see more results less sides off of ECA. T-3 is kind of a last ditch effort in weight loss.

[jack hust]

Tweeti think you are on thr right path you joined the board but you need to do some more homework and make your own cycle bro we can give you 1000 diff cycles you need to decide what you want and need imo

[Robey]

TweetThanks for the feedback.
6'5" 270, about 17%. Main problem is that i'm on some serious plateaus right now, mainly in bench, after trying every differant angle to reps and sets. Goal: 280 and about 12% or lower.
Thanks prolangtum, i'll scrap the t-3 idea.

[Robey]

TweetThnx, Saturn

[Speedracer59]

TweetWhats up Roby, I am not an athority on gear but I do read alot and frequent the other forums on this board. This is coming from experiance. If it were me I would go a little further naturally. you should improve on that 17% bf before gear.Get your diet in check. I did my first cycle with about the same stats as you but my diet was not very good and had 0 gains. I got my diet in check and have had unbelievable gains since. Roids are not a miracle worker, everything has to be clicking for them to work. I am saying this so you dont waste your money like I did.

[Robey]

Tweetk, man, thanks I will.

[prolangtum]

TweetI dont neccasirly agree. We dont all have to be at 10% bf to do a cycle. Many of us bulk up to 15%, then run a cutting cycle. I say go for it.

[Speedracer59]

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Originally posted by prolangtum
I dont neccasirly agree. We dont all have to be at 10% bf to do a cycle. Many of us bulk up to 15%, then run a cutting cycle. I say go for it.

I agree with this. I guess what I am trying to say is just make sure your diet is right. It can make or break a cycle.

[prolangtum]

TweetYes very true, if his diet is clean, he can drop bodyfat, and increase mass at the same time, especially since this is his first cycle. If his cals are slighlty above his maintenance, high in protein and moderate in carbs, and good fat, he will be amazed at the results.

[Robey]

TweetYeah, my last "natural" cycle was a bulk, so i'm not too worried about the bf%, more about getting the rest of the results. Like weight/strength going up while bf goes down this time.