FICO Reveals How Common Credit Mistakes Affect Scores

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TweetDisclosed for the 1st time, 'damage points' taken off for late payments
Borrowers already knew that late payments hurt their credit scores, but for the first time, they now know the extent of that damage.

Did you max out your credit card? Expect a credit score drop of 10 to 45 points. Declare bankruptcy? Your score will plummet by up to 240 points, and your odds of getting credit will nosedive with it.
The "damage points" data, unveiled recently by FICO, are part of the most revealing glimpse into the firm's once-secret -- and still mysterious -- credit scoring model. The new information discloses how many points borrowers' scores will drop when they make the most-common mistakes.
'Help People Understand' Scores
"I hope this information will help people to better understand FICO scores and the value for them of avoiding credit missteps. It illustrates key points such as the higher your score, the farther it can fall if you stumble," says FICO spokesman Craig Watts. "Getting and maintaining a good score isn't complicated. We all just need to pay our bills on time, keep credit card balances low and take on new debt sparingly. "

The greater transparency about FICO scores is important because American consumers' ability to get credit rises and falls with the number. FICO, the company that pioneered credit scoring, assigns consumers a three-digit number from 300 to 850, depending on how well they handle credit. Other companies also offer scores, but FICO's version is the most widely used by lenders in determining whether a consumer can borrow, and at what rate.
FICO's credit score has been around for decades, but only within the past decade have consumers gradually gained access to theirs. Though the raw numbers can be purchased, how they're figured remains a FICO secret, as closely guarded as the formula for Coca-Cola. Until Thursday, FICO revealed only broad categories of factors influencing the score, but not the number of points at stake for consumers who fail to pay as agreed. The "damage points" information, revealed in a report by personal finance writer Liz Pulliam Weston, will be made available through its myFICO.com Web site starting this weekend.
FICO's information shows that bankruptcy does the most serious damage to a credit score (up to 240 points), followed by foreclosure (up to 160 points) while maxing out a credit card has the least numerical impact (as few as 10 points).
Those with good or excellent credit -- so-called prime borrowers -- put more points at risk with each mistake. For example, someone with an average credit score of 680 who pays a bill 30 days late will see a drop of 60 to 80 points. But for someone with an excellent credit score -- 780 -- that same delinquency can send a FICO score tumbling by 90 to 100 points.
The Cost in Dollars
In order to show just how badly a drop in your FICO score can hurt your wallet, we spoke with members of the home mortgage, auto and credit card lending industries. We presented hypothetical scenarios of a consumer who decided to apply for a $200,000, 30-year mortgage; a $20,000, five-year auto loan and a credit card. While all the industry insiders stressed that a FICO score isn't the only factor in determining who gets credit and at what cost (other factors they cited include the borrower's debt-to-income ratio and whether they have already established a relationship with the lender), they were able to provide an idea of what a borrower who had the following credit scores could expect.
For a Consumer Who Started With a FICO Score of 780:

• Following a 30-day late payment, the consumer's car loan rate would jump nearly 3 percent, costing the borrower $26 more each month.
  
• Following a debt settlement, the consumer would pay as much as $109 more each month on a home mortgage.

For a Consumer Who Started With a FICO Score of 680:

• Following a 30-day late payment, the consumer would pay $41 more each month for a car loan.
  
  Following a 30-day late payment, the consumer would pay as much as $95 more each month on a home mortgage.
  
• Following a debt settlement, the consumer would no longer qualify for a credit card.

Some Surprised By the Details
Consumer advocates say it's important for borrowers to know what can damage their FICO scores. "If they know it in advance, they won't go out and step in a pile of doo-doo. They won't go out and do some of these things," says Linda Sherry, director of national priorities with advocacy group Consumer Action. Even experts found some surprises in today's news. "FICO imposes bigger hits than I would have thought for being maxed out or 30-days late just once, reinforcing my view that it is a cruder, blunter instrument than they like to claim. Nevertheless, it is a powerful, widely used crude blunt instrument," says Ed Mierzwinski, consumer program director for the U.S. PIRG consumer advocacy group.
Of course, knowing the impact on a FICO score and actually avoiding these mistakes are two separate things: Amid rising unemployment and other daily financial struggles, paying bills and staying on-track financially becomes a much bigger challenge for many borrowers.
"Some of these things are out of their control," Sherry says of consumers.
Additionally, as Weston points out, consumers with identical FICO scores can have different credit histories. That means the same slip-up -- such as maxing out a credit card -- could have different impacts on consumers who have the same FICO score. In the examples they provided, FICO assumed each borrower had several active major credit cards, a mortgage, car loan and student loans.
Sherry acknowledges the benefit of putting a number to a financial blunder. "I don't think we necessarily knew the numbers that a bankruptcy could apply to a credit score," Sherry says.
Helping You Make Better Decisions
While knowing the numbers may not keep you filing for bankruptcy if given no other choice, the information may help you make the best decision when faced with a bad situation.
FICO scores -- and the access to credit they provide -- are a valuable asset to consumers and supply a safety net when incomes are stretched. It's an asset that needs to be protected, Sherry says, even if job loss or catastrophic illness makes bill paying problematic.
"In that period of time, paying down debt is the last thing on your mind. Paying the minimum payment may also be the last thing on your mind, but you'll be doing yourself a big favor if you do," Sherry says.

[angryoldman]

TweetOne thing to add to that:
If you've had the same credit card for years, and you pay it off, never close it. Keep it open so you can maintain that history of good credit (providing you made all your card payments on time!) If the limit is $10,000, pay it to $0, and call the card company and ask them to lower your limit to $3000.
K. There's my 1 good deed for the day.

[daved150]

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One thing to add to that:
If you've had the same credit card for years, and you pay it off, never close it. Keep it open so you can maintain that history of good credit (providing you made all your card payments on time!) If the limit is $10,000, pay it to $0, and call the card company and ask them to lower your limit to $3000.
K. There's my 1 good deed for the day.

yep, yep...open line of credit with full or nearly full availability is a good thing to boost the ratings.
also, (this may have been in there becouse i only skimmed it), if having difficulting establishing credit, open a secured credit card and use it often!!! you can pay it off monthly or pay 1/2 one month and the other 1/2 the other month, by doing so, you'll build your credit rating up quickly....DO NOT MAX AND JUST MAKE MIN. PAYMENTS!!!

this also works to re-establish after a bankruptcy

[a-bomb83]

Tweet^i'm gonna have to do that. my bankruptcy case closes, well, tomorrow actually and should be getting my discharge papers in a week or so. shortly after that, i KNOW i'm gonna get all kinds of cc sh it in the mail. how in the hell would i go about getting a secured cc? all the offers i'm gonna get in the mail will be unsecured. do i go to a bank, fresh out of a bk, and apply only to get denied?

[daved150]

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^i'm gonna have to do that. my bankruptcy case closes, well, tomorrow actually and should be getting my discharge papers in a week or so. shortly after that, i KNOW i'm gonna get all kinds of cc sh it in the mail. how in the hell would i go about getting a secured cc? all the offers i'm gonna get in the mail will be unsecured. do i go to a bank, fresh out of a bk, and apply only to get denied?

nobody gets denied for a secured credit card bro...you put the money down to cover the high limit. you also usually pay a yearly fee, and most charge a one time set up fee...its in both your best intrest. usually after a year of good action and good payment, they will refund part or the full security deposit. then you can work on getting the balanced raised. once they send you back your security payment, you'll begin to get other/more attractive offers for credit cards....it's not as easy as it used to be, but it still aint very hard to rebuild...it's the second b/k that really kills you

[a-bomb83]

Tweet^ oh fu ck no, there will be NO 2nd bk! lol.

well thats cool, i didn't know how they worked, i guess i should have googled it, ha!. thanks man. prolly about the beginning of the year, i'll look into that.

[daved150]

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^ oh fu ck no, there will be NO 2nd bk! lol.

well thats cool, i didn't know how they worked, i guess i should have googled it, ha!. thanks man. prolly about the beginning of the year, i'll look into that.

you know if there's anything i can do too help i will...let me know