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      So taking 400mg EQ, 300mg Deca, 400mgSust, 400mg Prop, /week split between EOD. and 25-50mg D-bol everyday.
      4th week into cycle.
      Nipples and areolar area is puffy and protruding. No continuous itch, however, there is tingly sensation/little pain that alternates between the two.
      About two weeks ago started using armidex at about .25-.50mg EOD, along with Cabergoline. The pain and itch went away, and the puffiness appears and disappears.
      After a while puffiness started to stay so i switched to Letro at about .5mg/day for past 3 days.
      Today they were really puffy.
      I have Armidex, Caber, Letro, Noval, and Clomid on hand.
      Can you please tell me what i should do and at what dosage.
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      Default Re: Help, might be getting gyno.

      So right now your on Letro only? No caber? If so, I'd start back the caber and drop back down the Letro.

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      Default Re: Help, might be getting gyno.

      what is caber guys ive been out awhile

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      ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”






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      thanks o2

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      Default Re: Help, might be getting gyno.

      It is also used by bodybuilders to control gynecomastia caused by elevated prolactin levels through the use of anabolic steroids such as Nandrolone and Trenbolone

      very cool

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      Default Re: Help, might be getting gyno.

      Whoops....when I said drop back down the Letro, I meant I would drop the dosage down.

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      Lol, ok, thank you guys.
      I started heavy dose of Nolvadex along with some letro and caber(in case it's prolactin based). I hope to God this goes away, I am so frikin upset.
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      Default Re: Help, might be getting gyno.

      Drop the dbol.

      Dbol and test is what did it to me. You're running 800mg/wk of test AND dbol thats a lot of stuff at once. Typically you want to drop the dbol at week four anyways and with those fast acting esters in there its messing you up. So drop the dbol....you've already hit the four week mark anyways and no need for it.

      Letro is the strongest option you have there. I'd use that and drop the nolva. They work differently and for what you need the Letro is your best option.

      Letrozole is taken orally and it is an extremely powerful aromatase inhibitor. Whereas Tamoxifen acts by interfering with the function and uptake of estrogen already circulating in the body, Letrozole prevents the production of estrogen by the body.
      I'd personlly run the letro at 1.25 mg/ed.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Klash View Post
      So right now your on Letro only? No caber? If so, I'd start back the caber and drop back down the Letro.
      Drop the letro from .5 to what? HE needs to nip this before it gets worse.
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      Default Re: Help, might be getting gyno.

      And i doubt its prolactin levels if is appearing and reappearin...that means some of the anit-es he is using is working he is just bouncing around a lot. Some days he is doing 25 mg dbol and others he is using 50 mg dbol. Then to top it off he is using all sorts of different ester tests along with a non routine schedule of anti es.

      All three things are a recipe for disaster...steady and consistent is the key here.

      I personally got gyno from dbol and test together and it cost me 4K to get it removed.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Stout1 View Post
      Drop the letro from .5 to what? HE needs to nip this before it gets worse.
      True but JohnSours if you start having trouble getting it up (talking about sex) or taking a crap, lower the dose and I also think dropping the dbol would probably speed up recovery.

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      Thank you stout, klash, and rest. i think my body just wasn't ready for this one yet. Even though i am on the low LOW end of the doses on these compounds, I think you might be right in that i might be taking too many compounds. So I think i am going to take out Deca for now, I will be running out of D-bol soon, so that will reduce my compounds to Sustanon, EQ, and Prop. I think i will add maybe a 50mg/ED of Suspension to it later.
      Once again i am on low doses like around 400mg Prop, 400mg EQ, and 300 mg Deca 300mg Sust. /week but you may very well be right i will reduce the amounts and the compounds. See if that helps.

      With regards to gains, I pretty much exploded. I was 155lbs at the beginning of cycle and right now 4 weeks into it i am sitting at a solid 180lbs. A little fat around the stomach but the rest of my body (arms, Legs, back...) are more cut up then before not to mention bigger. Strength is off the charts, my bench was at 65lbs dumbbell press, now its like 100lbs. 200lbs dead lifts to now 335lbs. and i think i am not carrying that much water, don't feel like a balloon right now.

      I am going to use Caber till deca "clears" the active system (not talking about the year effect), and use letro and Nolva to reduce the other estrogen. then stick with low dose nolva for through out.

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      why are you taking prop and sust?
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      Sust has longer esters and prop is for quick esters, quicker kick. Not sure I understand your question. I read that your test should be as high as or higher than your longer esters such as EQ and deca. Now I would love to take 500 mg of sust but that would be pointless. So I am taking prop to take that job and sust for it's long ester benefits which are numerous.
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