socialism stimulus package

[PL456]

TweetI would urge everyone to check out some of the actual contents of the obama plan.
i read that in this package that basically all banks will become financial institutions of the federal government.

this is scary stuff.

socialism on the march

[horsepwr]

Tweetoh yeah, I was looking for a thread that mentioned Obama's absolute grotesque spending of our money, that we don't have, and what he's spending it on. You think it will be a shot in the arm for the economy? Think again. Try more like, he's just hooking up all the demented democrat interests in congress. You should really see where your hard earned money is going. Your great president Obama has bought into some of the lamest of claims. And when I say bought into, I mean it. How about $400 billion for "global warming". gotta hook up his buddy, Mr. Gore. GLOBAL FUKIN WARMING! and that's just 1 little example. I read a list of about 15 places this "stimulous" is going that are all just imaginary. This ain't monopoly money mr. president so stop throwing it down on fake stuff! dipshyt.
At least Bush made sure the money actually landed into the everyday, WORKING American's hands. Obama has doled out billions to non-working, non-tax paying America. WTF!!!! What about the economy? What about JOBS?! It's all going to fake studies, and wel-fare. What will that do for economy? not a fukin thing but put us in more debt. But this debt is just pure pissed away debt. Nothing to show for. It will, however, create plenty more government and government dependancy.
I want to take this time to say thanks. Thanks to brilliant America that was sold on this doucebag of a con-man. I have some swamp-land for sell.

[horsepwr]

TweetI found this little snippet from Glenn Beck.
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Everyone else is talking about what's in the $825 billion stimulus package, but here's the one thing I want to know: How can we let the government get away with calling it a "stimulus" in the first place?

Let's break down the numbers on this with the help of those non-partisan, radical hate-mongers over at the Congressional Budget Office.

According to the CBO, only $26 billion — just over 3 percent — will be spent this year. Another $110 billion — or 13 percent — will be spent next year. Which means that by the time President Obama's term is halfway through, just 16 percent of the money will have been spent.

I thought President Obama said this is supposed to be a quick "jolt" to the economy?

The president has also billed the stimulus as an investment in America's infrastructure. And if that were true, I'd be all for it. I mean, I-95 here on the East Coast isn't exactly the autobahn. Yet only 3 percent — just $30 billion — of this entire package is dedicated to road and highway spending.

Then you have the promise about creating "green jobs" and clean energy.

Again, you want to seriously get wind and solar and nuclear power off the ground, I'm in. But this isn't serious. Only 2 percent of the money is earmarked for clean energy and only 1/7th of that will be spent over the next 2 years.

The CBO tells us that billions of dollars are going to buy new computers and replace government cars with new alternative fuel vehicles. In all, the money is going to 150 different federal programs — from Amtrak to the TSA — and it's not clear a single new job will be created.

America, let's call a spade a spade: This package isn't meant to stimulate the economy, it's meant to reshape it.

If President Obama, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the progressives really believe that socialism is the best way out of this mess and the best way forward for America, then make the case. Let's debate it and allow the American people to decide.

But what they're doing now — using fear to promote long-term changes to the country — is exactly the kind of thing that has led to the biggest deficit of all: The deficit of trust we now have in our leaders.

[Doink the clown]

TweetYep, i think they want a socialist country by 2012

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Yep, i think they want a socialist country by 2012

He'll achieve it alot sooner than that.
Worst of all, we have educated, and educating, Americans that believe that's best for America. Oh, I left out, "communism is best for America right now."

[FUZO]

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He'll achieve it alot sooner than that.

I HOPE NOT.

[firstenrgy]

TweetA democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.- Alexander Tytler

[daved150]

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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.- Alexander Tytler

so...we're right on track!!! we've been going through these cyc's, in the order that was stated, for the last 200 years!!! i'd say we're somewhere around the apathy end of the cycle.. dosnt really matter the administration elected. it's predetermined. he's just at the tail end of the cyc. time to hit the reset button!!! (i was getting tired of this game anyways)

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I HOPE NOT.

He's already achieved it on a massive corp level. But, something good has came out of them realizing that by accepting the government money, they're then controlled by the government. So in turn, they now want to repay the money immediately. Then it's back to business as usual. so they say.

[FROGMAN]

TweetUSSA, kind of has a ring to it!
WTF!!!

[3Vandoo]

TweetI think you guys are so on the right that you dont know what the **** is socialism or the left

Hell im in Quebec, in pure socialist country

try google QUEBEC SOLIDAIRE you want socialism, there it is

[FROGMAN]

TweetAh Yes Comrade 3Vandoo how is the northern socialist front?

[3Vandoo]

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Ah Yes Comrade 3Vandoo how is the northern socialist front?

im serious, google quebec solidaire

you want some puking leftist who never worked a ****ing of their life, who wants everything in their mouth, so and see. They got one elected official at the parliement, and its a ****ing Arab with links to terrorist groups, god bless the leftist liberals

I am fed up on the left, left, and left, my balls are fed up too, my left balls merged with the right in protest!

[FROGMAN]

TweetWhat got cut.... hmmmm from the Communist News Network
Partially cut:

• $3.5 billion for energy-efficient federal buildings (original bill $7 billion)

• $75 million from Smithsonian (original bill $150 million)

• $200 million from Environmental Protection Agency Superfund (original bill $800 million)

• $100 million from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (original bill $427 million)

• $100 million from law enforcement wireless (original bill $200 million)

• $300 million from federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill $600 million)

• $100 million from FBI construction (original bill $400 million)

Fully eliminated

• $55 million for historic preservation

• $122 million for new Coast Guard polar icebreaker/cutters

• $100 million for Farm Service Agency modernization

• $50 million for CSERES research

• $65 million for watershed rehabilitation

• $30 million for SD salaries

• $100 for distance learning

• $98 million for school nutrition

• $50 million for aquaculture

• $2 billion for broadband

• $100 million for NIST

• $50 million for detention trustee

• $25 million for Marshalls Construction

• $300 million for federal prisons

• $300 million for BYRNE Formula

• $140 million for BYRNE Competitive

• $10 million state and local law enforcement

• $50 million for NASA

• $50 million for aeronautics

• $50 million for exploration

• $50 million for Cross Agency Support

• $200 million for National Science Foundation

• $100 million for science

• $1 billion for Energy Loan Guarantees

• $4.5 billion for GSA

• $89 million GSA operations

• $50 million from DHS

• $200 million TSA

• $122 million for Coast Guard Cutters, modifies use

• $25 million for Fish and Wildlife

• $55 million for historic preservation

• $20 million for working capital fund

• $165 million for Forest Service capital improvement

• $90 million for State and Private Wildlife Fire Management

• $1 billion for Head Start/Early Start

• $5.8 billion for Health Prevention Activity

• $2 billion for HIT Grants

• $600 million for Title I (NCLB)

• $16 billion for school construction

• $3.5 billion for higher education construction

• $1.25 billion for project based rental

• $2.25 for Neighborhood Stabilization