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      In Regard IFG-1! All questions answered!

      Here is all the information requested the past week in regards to IGF-1! this should clear the air and answer
      alot of questions for you all! enjoy! wyldeone. IGF stands for insulin-like growth factor. It is a natural
      substance that is produced in the human body and is at its highest natural levels during puberty. During
      puberty IGF is the most responsible for the natural muscle growth that occurs during these few years.
      There are many different things that IGF does in the human body; I will only mention the points that would
      be important for physical enhancement. Among the effects the most positive are increased amino acid
      transport to cells, increased glucose transport, increased protein synthesis, decreased protein
      degradation, and increased RNA synthesis.

      When IGF is active it behaves differently in different types of tissues. In muscle cells proteins and
      associated cell components are stimulated. Protein synthesis is increased along with amino acid
      absorption. As a source of energy, IGF mobilizes fat for use as energy in adipose tissue. In lean tissue,

      IGF prevents insulin from transporting glucose across cell membranes. As a result the cells have to switch
      to burning off fat as a source of energy.

      IGF also mimic's insulin in the human body. It makes muscles more sensitive to insulin's effects, so if you
      are a person that currently uses insulin you can lower your dosage by a decent margin to achieve the same
      effects, and as mentioned IGF will keep the insulin from making you fat.

      Perhaps the most interesting and potent effect IGF has on the human body is its ability to cause hyperplasia,
      which is an actual splitting of cells. Hypertrophy is what occurs during weight training and steroid use, it
      is simply an increase in the size of muscle cells. See, after puberty you have a set number of muscle
      cells, and all you are able to do is increase the size of these muscle cells, you don't actually gain more.
      But, with IGF use you are able to cause this hyperplasia which actually increases the number of
      muscle cells present in the tissue, and through weight training and steroid usage you are able to mature
      these new cells, in other words make them grow and become stronger. So in a way IGF can actually change
      your genetic capabilities in terms of muscle tissue and cell count. IGF proliferates and differentiates
      the number of types of cells present. At a genetic level it has the potential to alter an individuals
      capacity to build superior muscle density and size.

      There is a lot of talk about the similarity between IGF and growth hormone. The most often asked question
      is simply which is more effective. GH doesn't directly cause your muscles to grow, it works very indirectly
      by increasing protein synthesis capabilities, increasing the amount of insulin a person can use
      effectively, and increasing the amount of anabolic steroids a person can use effectively. GH also
      indirectly causes muscle growth by stimulating the release of IGF when it (the GH) is destroyed in the
      human body. So one way you could look at it as GH being a precursor to IGF. So to put it simple IGF is
      more effective at directly causing muscle growth and density increases. IGF is also much more cost
      effective.

      IGF can also be effectively used by itself and gains will still be easily noticeable. With growth hormone
      you need to use high amounts of anabolics and often insulin to see any gains at all, this is not the case
      with IGF. IGF can be used by itself and is often used by bodybuilders who bridge between cycles, during this
      bridge is a good time to use IGF since it has no effect on natural testosterone production so it will
      therefore allow you to return to normal in terms of hormone levels. A stack of IGF, PGF2a, HCG, and clomid
      would be a good bridge stack and would allow your body to return to normal and still allow you to retain and
      make new gains.

      IGF is a research drug, it hasn't been approved by the FDA for use as a pharmaceutical and it is currently
      being researched for nerve tissue repair, possible burn victims, and also as a possible aid in muscle
      wasting for AIDS patients. There are many different analogs of IGF available, instead of mentioning them
      all, I will simply mention the two most common and the most effective. Regular recombinant IGF is one of the
      two, it is also the more expensive and the least effective. Regular IGF only has a half-life of about
      10-20 minutes in the human body and is quickly destroyed, it can be combined with certain binding
      proteins to extend the half-life, but it is not a very simple procedure and there is a more effective and
      less expensive version available. The most effective form of IGF is Long R3 IGF-1, it has been chemically
      altered and has had amino acid changes which cause it to avoid binding to proteins in the human body and
      allow it to have a much longer half life, around 20-30 hours. "Long R3 IGF-1 is an 83 amino acid analog of
      IGF-1 comprising the complete human IGF-1 sequence with the substition of an Arg(R) for the Glu(E) at
      position three, hence R3, and a 13 amino acid extension peptide at the N terminus. This analog of
      IGF-1 has been produced with the purpose of increasing the biological activity of the IGF peptide."

      "Long R3 IGF-1 is signifacantly more potent than IGF-1. The enhanced potency is due to the decreased
      binding of Long R3 IGF-1 to all known IGF binding proteins. These binding proteins normally inhibit the
      biological actions of IGF's."

      It is also not as expensive since a media grade version is available which is sufficient for
      bodybuilding use. There is also a receptor grade available but it is VERY expensive and the only
      noticeable difference between the two would only be able to be noticed in a laboratory setting. The price
      on the black market for Long R3 IGF-1 can be seen anywhere from $300-$500 per milligram depending on the
      source, be wary of black market ******s of any IGF since it is a VERY difficult item to obtain. As
      mentioned IGF is a research product and is only available from a few laboratories in the world and is
      only available to research companies and biotechnology institutions. For the rest of this article when I say
      IGF I am now referring to Long R3 IGF-1 for simplicity sake.

      Any form of IGF is ONLY supplied in a lyphosized form, which means a dry powder state. NEVER PUCHASE
      PRE-DILUTED LIQUID IGF!!!! There is no such product made anywhere in the world and even if there were real
      IGF ever present in the vial it would all be dead by the time you receive it. IGF is a very delicate
      peptide and must be diluted by yourself, where you have access to a refrigerator and freezer. There has
      also been a lot of talk by certain sources claiming to have IGF made by the Eli Lilly company, to clear
      things up Lilly is a pharmaceutical company and as stated IGF is a research drug and has not yet been
      approved, Lilly does not and never has manufactured research drugs for retail sale.

      The dilutents you will need for the IGF are a weak concentration of hydrochloric acid and a sterile
      buffer(sterile water or bacteriostatic water) the procedure for diluting the IGF is not very difficult,
      the dilutents can be obtained from most local chemical suppliers and a good source of IGF would also be able
      to supply the necessary dilutents.

      The most effective length for a cycle of IGF is 50 days on and 20-40 days off. The most controversy
      surrounding Long R3 IGF-1 is the effective dosage. The most used dosages range between 20mcg/day to
      120+mcg/day. IGF is only available by the milligram, one mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 20mcg/day, 2mg
      will give you a 50 day cycle at 40mcg/day, 3mg will give you a 50 day cycle at 60mcg/day, 4mg will give
      you a 50 day cycle at 80mcg/day and so on. The dosage issue mainly revolves around how much money you have
      to spend, plenty of people use the minimum dosage of 20mcg/day and are happy with the results, and in fact
      several top bodybuilders use the 20mcg/day dosage and are pleased with the results. IGF is most effective
      when administered subcutaneously and injected once or twice daily at your current dosage. The best time for
      injections is either in the morning and/or immediately after weight training.

      Another frequently asked question of IGF refers to the real world results, in terms of pure weight gain don't
      expect to gain 5 lbs. a week like you may off of anadrol or a similar steroid. The only weight you will
      gain from IGF use is pure lean muscle tissue, with steroids most of the weight gained is water weight.
      With an effective dosage you can expect to gain 1-2 lbs of new lean muscle tissue every 2-3 weeks and
      these effects can be increased with the use of testosterone, anabolic steroids, and insulin use.
      Increased vascularity is also very common, people report seeing veins appear where they never have
      before. And yet another effect reported is the ability to stay lean while bulking with heavy dosages of
      steroids and TONS of food while on an IGF cycle, this is perhaps the most pleasing effect. Increased pumps
      are also noticeable almost immediately, the pumps can almost become painful, pumps are even noticeable when
      doing cardio.

      Overall, IGF is a very exciting drug due to its ability to alter ones genetic capabilities. If you can
      find a trustworthy source and you use it correctly it can be a VERY useful tool in your bodybuilding drug
      arsenal.

      IntensityX
      Long�R3IGF-I is an analog of human IGF-I.
      � It is a superior alternative to insulin in
      serum-free media.
      � It increases protein production by cells in culture
      medium.
      � It increases cell viability by inhibiting apoptosis.
      � It has a longer half-life in cell culture than
      insulin.
      � It is readily available.
      � There is secure and ample manufacturing capacity at
      GroPep Limited.
      � No animal- or human- derived material is used in the
      manufacture or storage of Long�R3IGF-I.
      � Long�R3IGF-I is already being used in the
      manufacture of three (3) biopharmaceuticals approved
      by FDA and EMEA.

      Frequently Asked Questions

      What cell types will respond to Long�R3IGF-I?
      All cells that have a Type I IGF receptor will potentially respond. Most commercially used cells
      including CHO, fibroblasts and hybridomas have a type I IGF receptor. All cells which respond to
      pharmacological concentrations of insulin (>1mg/liter) will respond to Long�R3IGF-I (10-50
      mg/liter).

      Is storage of the stock solution at 4�C acceptable?
      Yes

      How long is the stock solution stable for under these storage conditions?
      Liquid stability data shows that Long�R3IGF-I is stable for 3 years (-20�C to 37�C). Therefore, the
      stock solution should be stable at 4�C for 3 years.

      What type of preparation is available?
      Liquid formulation, preferable for GMP production. Freeze dried preparation.

      Is Long�R3IGF-I stable?
      Re-test date for freeze-dried peptide is 3 years. Liquid formulation stability studies have recently
      been completed. It is stable for 3 years (-20�C to +37�C). We have data indicating stability in media at
      4�C for 1 year.

      Here is an article written by a self-experimenter.

      December 15, 2000

      Answer: What a perfect question! You actually have talked to just the right person. I have a business
      associate that worked for the company that produces this in Australia. Several years ago, I ordered 10mg
      of Long R3 IGF-1 and used it for several months. What I found out was truly amazing.

      Before I tell you about my results, let me tell you that if you are going to use IGF-1 then make sure it
      is the Long R3 version! Let me explain. Regular IGF-1 like what is produced in your body is transported
      around connected to binding proteins. There are quite a few of these and their main purpose is to grab ahold
      of the IGF-1 peptide and keep it from being quickly degraded. Without these binding proteins, all of the
      IGF-1 would be metabolized in the body within a few minutes. The problem (at least it seems like a problem
      but might actually be a good thing) is that these binding proteins basically prevent the IGF-1 from
      performing its function. As long as IGF-1 is attached to the binding protein it cannot do the cool stuff
      that it wants to do. Regular IGF-1 must be released from its binding protein in order to accomplish its
      mission. Part of the problem is that much of the IGF-1 is degraded before it is released (seems like much is
      wasted doesn�t it?)

      With Long R3 IGF-1 this problem doesn�t exist. Understand that the Long R3 version does not bind to
      the various binding proteins. It is free to move throughout your body and immediately start doing all
      the cool stuff that it wants to do. Again, understand that the Long R3 version is several orders of
      magnitude stronger than regular IGF-1.

      If you would happen to use regular IGF-1, you would need several milligrams per day in order to get the
      desired effect. With the Long R3 version, you need only microgram quantities. Long R3 is also inherently
      MUCH cheaper to produce. What I am saying is that for the average person, regular IGF-1 is not practical-it
      is too expensive and you need to use too much. With Long R3 IGF-1, the price to results ratio is pretty
      good!

      Something else I want to explain is how I went about preparing it for injection into my body.
      Unfortunately, this is not easy and the average person will have a hard time doing it. At the time, I worked
      in a sophisticated lab which had all of the necessary equipment. I ordered 10mg of Long R3 IGF-1 and it came
      in a single flip-top vial. 10mg might not seem like much but believe me, when it comes to Long R3 IGF-1,
      it is a ton! Some people might say to just add saline to the vial, keep it in the fridge and inject it when
      necessary. However, this will not work well because the IGF-1 is not highly stable and will degrade in an
      aqueous environment. 10mg was enough for many months and I needed a way that would allow the IGF-1 to
      remain potent during this entire time. I did my research and developed my method. I ordered what is
      known as microvials and sterilized them. I then diluted the IGF-1 with sterile water and added just a
      tad of acid to increase stability. Although it took quite a while, I then used a micropipette and
      alliquotted an amount of solution that contained 50mcg into one of my microvials. I closed the microvial and
      then froze it in a deep freezer. When I was ready to inject, I took out one or more of my microvials,
      thawed it out, combined it with saline and injected it.

      When I first started taking Long R3 IGF-1, I used 50mcg every other day. Amazingly, within days, I
      started noticing some effects in my body. I felt super hungry all of the time and just felt �anabolic�. I
      can�t describe this feeling except to say that it was very similar to being on anabolic steroids (I wasn�t
      on at the time). Within one month, I gained almost 17 pounds of fairly lean mass! After the first month,
      something happened though and I noticed that it didn�t seem to be working that well. I upped the dosage
      several times over the next month to keep up the desired effects. On the third month, I was using
      several hundred micrograms per day but wasn�t noticing any further gains. All in all, I gained about 20
      pounds of pretty solid mass!

      Please notice that almost all of my gains were within the first month of taking the Long R3 IGF-1. After
      this first month, my gains slowed down considerably and eventually stopped altogether even though I was
      taking high dosages. Why did this happen?

      From all of my research, I suppose one of two things might have happened to prevent me from making further
      gains. What I truly suspect is that the Long R3 IGF-1 downregulated the amount of binding proteins being
      produced by my body (research confirms this). When I first started to inject the IGF-1, I was supplementing
      my own body�s IGF-1. I not only had my own IGF-1 working throughout the day but I had the potent surges
      of Long R3 IGF-1 that I would inject. Over time though, the binding proteins were downregulated. Of
      course my body continued to produce some (albeit less) IGF-1, however, because there were very little or no
      binding proteins it was quickly degraded. From what I can tell, I was in a state where 95% of the day my
      body did not have the benefits of IGF-1. Basically, it got what it got when I injected the Long R3 version.

      The other possibility is that I built up antibodies to the Long R3 IGF-1 which basically sought out and
      destroyed what I injected. Although possible, I don�t believe this actually happened because it is not
      supported by research. I have seen no evidence which suggests that Long R3 IGF-1 causes antibody
      production.

      To fix the above problem, one would have to cycle the Long R3 IGF-1. The best thing would probably be to
      take it every other month. This would allow your own body�s IGF-1 and binding proteins to return to normal.


      Overall, I had a good experience with Long R3 IGF-1. The results were different than with steroids. I have
      noticed that steroids cause preferential growth of certain muscles, especially those that are stressed
      (as in lifting). The IGF-1 though seemed to cause my entire body to get a little thicker. I guess IGF-1 is
      less compensatory in nature and exerts a more whole-body anabolicity.

      Would I recommend IGF-1? To the right person who is very careful and knows what he�s doing and has a good
      background in the sciences and has access to a good lab, YES! However, you can tell that I have listed
      many prerequisites to using it. For the average Joe, I believe is is just too complicated to be safe.
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      Thats one of the best post i think ive read on igf

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      dont u have to inject it in the muscle group or groups worked that day?

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      Good info. I was thinking of trying this but it looks kike i have alot more preparation before I'm ready. Thanks

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