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      The back has much potential, which is seldom reached. For such
      a simple lift, the deadlift can be complicated to train. If one only deadlifts,
      progress will stall or injuries are certain. No one is totally built to deadlift. The
      lower back can be overtrained if one bends over too much, or it can be
      undertrained if the legs are used too much. If sumo deadlifts are done constantly,
      the back will become weak while the hips will be overused.

      My friend Sakari, from Finland, has surveyed the top 15 deadlifters in
      Finland and discovered that more than 60% of the deadlift training for sumo
      pullers is special exercises. At Westside we have found the same. Let's look at
      some of those exercises.

      There are many styles of good mornings to choose from. Matt Smith
      does mostly concentric good mornings. He fixes a set of chains hanging from the
      power rack, with the loop of the chain 3 feet off the floor. He suspends the bar in
      the chains. He ducks under the bar and muscles up the weight. Once your style
      is developed, continue to use that style, and as the weight goes up, so does your
      squat and deadlift. Matt's best is 860 pounds. A final note: don't swing the weight.
      If you do, you may start the load with the bar behind the knees. This is a squat,
      not a good morning. Remember, the bar must be in front of the knees to
      be a good morning. The concentric good morning builds little muscle mass.

      The most common good morning at Westside is the bent-over style
      with a 14-inch-cambered bar. First stand up with bar. Sink the chest to round the
      back slightly. Fill the abs with air and bend over with the glutes pushed out to the
      rear as far as possible. When going from the eccentric phase to the concentric
      phase, try to arch the back as you complete the lift. Don't go too low: On EMG
      testing, the spinal erectors will shut off and the low lumbars will be activated. This
      is dangerous.

      The next type of good morning is the arched-back style. This is my
      favorite. I like the Safety Squat bar for this exercise. I don't wear gear or a belt.
      Push the glutes to the rear as far as possible. Very little leg bend is used.
      Overarch the back. In the bottom, pause for a split second, push your head into
      the pad by picking up your chin, and come up. When I break my arched-back
      good morning record, I break my squat record. The camber of the Safety Squat
      bar places the center line of the bar well in front of the knees.

      Chuck Vogelpohl and many others do a combo squat/good morning.
      Just bend over into a good morning, then drop into a parallel squat and return to
      the starting position. This can be done with or without a box. Try to keep the reps
      to lower than 3 and no more than 6. Whether you wear a belt and/or suit with the
      straps down is up to you and your ability. We use many special bars for squats
      as well as good mornings. We also sometimes raise the heels by 2 inches; this
      puts extra work on the lower back. Raising the toes 1-2 inches puts pressure on
      the hamstrings. The legendary Paul Anderson was doing all the varieties of the
      good mornings I have talked about.

      A training partner of Paul Childress let me in on a little secret to building
      some very strong erectors. Place one foot on a 2 x 6 board. Do 3-5 reps in either
      the bent-over or arched-back good morning. This will really isolate the spinal
      erectors and hamstrings. If it sounds like Westsiders do a lot of good mornings,
      we do.
      For other sports teams, try doing walking bent-over lunges with a Safety
      Squat bar. I've had NFL football players, top soccer players from the U.K.,
      professional rugby coaches from the U.K., and MMA fighters do this, and it
      kicked their asses in a good way.

      Very low box squats are also used to build a deadlift by building a strong
      lower back and hips by isolating these crucial muscle groups. Some men who
      are very flexible will squat off a 6-inch box, although most use a 10-inch box.
      Reps of 1-5 works best. A strong squatter will do 60-70% of their contest squat.
      Use groove briefs or a suit with the straps down.

      Don't forget to use as many different bars as possible to break records.
      After doing a max effort workout with a special squat or good morning or even a
      box, rack, or regular deadlift, there are very specialized exercises that must be
      done. The following describes some of them.

      In the 45-degree back raise, work up to a hard set of 3-5 reps. A decent
      goal would be 200 pounds for 5 reps. Lock the low back statically and squeeze
      the glutes as hard as possible. We use our own C/H/G design, with a 3-foot-wide
      pad. After all, a wider base is best. If your base is narrower than the top, it is
      unstable, and so is any coach who preaches this style.

      Pull-throughs are very productive. They can be done with a Jump-
      Stretch band or a low-pulley machine. Do high reps, 10-15. When doing heavy
      weight on a low pulley, it is hard to keep your balance because the weight on the
      cable may exceed your body weight. Another way to do pull-throughs, the riginal
      way, is with a kettle bell. Use a shoulder-width stance. Place both hands on the
      kettle bell. Swing it through the legs until the hamstrings and glutes stop the bell.
      This sets the stretch reflex into action. Very quickly, swing to the front, to waist
      height or higher, and repeat for 6-12 reps depending on the weight. Do 3 or 4
      sets. These can be done with one arm, two arms, or alternating hands.

      Try some one-arm deadlifts. Sumo style works best. Use straps
      or a hook grip. They work muscles you didn't know you had. Reps work
      best, 3-5. Herman Gonner has done 727 pounds. Zercher lifts will build every
      squat and deadlift muscle in your body, with the exception of your hands.

      Westside does a lot of grip work with various devices, such as
      the Rolling Thunder from Ironmind, the G-Rex Grip from Sorinex, and the
      Telegraph Key, and by holding the bell end of a hex dumbbell.

      Pay attention to stretching and joint mobility work. Ab work is also
      essential. I prefer the stand-up style. Kettle bell swings work the abs well. Some
      Westsiders do weighted sit-ups, flat or decline. We also use a device of Pat
      Roberts that has helped a lot. It's a wheel with metal foot straps with which you
      walk on your hands or do push-ups. We also do a lot of static holds with the
      wheel. It not only builds the abs, but it works the upper and lower back. An added
      plus for me is that it works my groin and legs.

      One other very important machine, the Reverse Hyper machine, will
      not only build the hamstrings, glutes, and spinal erectors but also traction the low
      back by rotating the sacrum and rehydrating the disks. (The Reverse Hyper
      machine has two U.S. patents, a third patent pending, and a U.S. trademark.)
      This machine is used at least four times a week. On a strap Pro model, Chuck's
      normal weight is 480-520 for 3 sets of 10 reps. On the same day, Chuck will also
      do 3 sets on a roller Pro model. The usual weight is 360 for 10 reps. This workout
      is done Monday and Friday. On bench days, he performs 2 sets of 15 reps on
      just one machine with about 70% of the weight of the heavy day. Also a lot of leg
      curls are done with the roller Pro model.

      Always rotate a core exercise each week. A good morning, a low
      box squat, a rack pull, etc., can be rotated. Switch the special exercises as often
      as necessary. One exercise may make the difference between failure and
      success. So pick wisely: not the ones you like, but the ones that work.
      P.S. Congratulations to Nick Winters, who became Westside's 16th 700-
      pound bencher on September 10.
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      Great post Fuzo,

      I've never been to a gym that has the . Looks like a great exercise.

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      ^that machine looks great!! didnt have one at my powerhouse and i dont think the wife will let me go out and pick one up, but i'd like to try it!!!
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