Here's some more BULL**** that irritated me!

[Schiznick]

TweetI guarantee it, if you stole money from the city, they would file charges against you, but I guess it doesnt work the same in return.....

Red light camera monkey business may be a national trend
By Joel Hruska | Published: April 13, 2008 - 08:11PM CT

Red-light cameras are often billed as a great way to improve traffic safety and prevent speeding. A few cities across America, however, have been caught short-timing their own yellow lights below legal levels, in what may be an attempt to boost ticket revenues by giving drivers less time to come to a stop. So how many anecdotes do you need to pronounce something a trend? It's hard to say, especially when the anecdotes in question support the abolishment of something as universally hated as the red light camera.

Six possible red light "gotcha" stories, some of which go back as far as 2005, were originally reported by theNewspaper, but were compiled into a single list of events by motorists.org. One city, Chatanooga, TN, has been forced to repay the $8,800 it collected in ticket revenue, while investigations in Dallas, Texas and Springfield, Missouri, have uncovered evidence of similar practices, although no charges have been filed.

In the single court case that has occurred thus far, Chattanooga's city traffic engineer John Van Winkle testified that the yellow signal light should be (and was) turned on for the 3.9 seconds necessary to meet basic safety standards. The judge in question ordered the claim verified, and discovered that the light was only set for 3s—significantly less than the 3.9 second minimum. Van Winkle claims that the problem was caused by an accidental mixup with turn arrow timing, but there might be more behind the issue. According to confidental documents released in 2001, Lasercraft, the company behind Chatanooga's red camera lights, only installs red light cameras at high-volume intersections with an "amber phase" of less than 4s.

None of the other cities are facing court actions, but investigative reports have turned up troublesome trends. In Dallas, yellow lights at the city's revenue generators camera-enforced intersections were timed for just 3.15 seconds, or 0.35 seconds less than the Texas Department of Transportation minimum. In this case, a third of a second may make a substantial difference in revenue—theNewspaper reports that most (80 percent) red light tickets are issued less than one second after the light has turned to red. Ironically, Dallas is now considering scrapping its ticket revenue program, after new legislation forced the city to post signs alerting drivers to the existence of the cameras as well as requiring all towns to send 50 percent of their camera-derived income to the state's coffers.

Springfield has a similar story. There, residents voiced concerns last spring after the city announced its intention to slash yellow lights by 1 second at multiple intersections. Again, evidence from the investigation indicated that longer yellow lights actually reduce the number of accidents at busy intersections. The only problem is, long yellows also have a negative impact on revenue, which can make the cameras cost more than they're worth.

Ultimately, whether you take motorist.org's list of cities who are short-timing yellow lights as indicative of a national trend depends on where you draw the line between "trend" and "anecdote collection." But with state and city budgets tightening in the current economic climate it wouldn't be surprising if a bona fide trend were eventually realized

[daved150]

Tweetboy thats a bunch of shyt!!! in mich. they cant use those camara's. state law say's they (le) must OBSERVE you disobaying traffic signals. they've tried to change it a few times, but it gets shot down every time...we aint got many camara's up here. only in high crime area's to stop the car jackings!

[MARUS0618]

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boy thats a bunch of shyt!!! in mich. they cant use those camara's. state law say's they (le) must OBSERVE you disobaying traffic signals. they've tried to change it a few times, but it gets shot down every time...we aint got many camara's up here. only in high crime area's to stop the car jackings!

ha ha carlos mencia said somthing about camera's in high crime neighborhoods, he said something like, "IN THE HIGH CRIME AREAS, THEY NEED A CAMERA TO WATCH FOR DRUG DEALS, AND A CAMERA TO WATCH THE CAMERA SO NOBODY JACKS IT" it was something like that, but i bout near pissed myself when he said it.

[supasaiyan99]

TweetThey are trying to pass that red light camera requirement in FL. I think it's close to passing. Some one needs to find a way to hack those ambulance traffic signal modules. I'd buy one to change the traffic patterns when I arrive at an intersection.

[Waterboy]

TweetWe have them in NC. Statistics have shown they actualy cause more rear end collisions where they are installed.
How can that be safer?