Questions On My Cycle Preparation

[teutonic]

TweetHere Is A Tentative Outlay That I Have...Questions Below


WEEKS 1-4
Dbol @ 30mgs ED (Naps)

WEEKS 1-12
Tren E @ 400mg (Mon/Thurs)

WEEKS 1-14
Test E @ 500mg (Mon/Thurs)

Week 1 – till day before PCT
Liquid Aromasin (Innovative Solutions) - 12.5mg ED
(to prevent gyno & bloat from Test E and Dbol)

Week 1 – all the way to the end of PCT
B6 – 200mg ED (to prevent gyno from Tren)

Weeks 5 - 16 (stop a couple of days before Clomid)
HCG - 500mg 2x a week (Mon/Thurs) mixed in with the Test & Tren


PCT 2 Weeks after last shot of Test E

CLOMID
Day 1 ---------300mg
Days 2-11 -----100mg
Days 12- 28 ------50mg

NOLVADEX
Days 1 – 60 ------ 20mg ED

B6
Days 1 – 60 ----- 200mg ED


QUESTIONS

1) Should I take anything for the liver…from the affects from the Dbol? ALA?

2) If I feel signs of gyno coming on what should I do? Since it could be caused by any of the 3 things I am taking (dbol, test or tren).

3) Will B6 be enough to cover myself from getting gyno from Tren? If so is it ok to run B6 for like 6 months at 200mg ED.(Week 1 – all the way to the end of PCT)

4) How does the dosage of the HCG look? Should I lower it? I will be running it for about 3 months. I know HCG can give you gyno too.

5) How does the PCT look? Should I run Aromasin instead of Nolvadex throughout PCT? Should I run the Nolvadex (or Aromasin) and B6 for 2 months? I did that to try and stop a rebound effect from happening to me.

I had a rebound effect happen to me on my last cycle…like 4 months after my PCT ended…It sucked!! Don’t want that happening again.

[JsJs24]

TweetYou could run some milk thistle at about 800mg ed for your liver. Otherwise, I think the cycle looks great. The HCG is good at 500 imo, however, you should probably run about 500mcg ed for 10-14 days after your last shot of test before pct, or at 1000mcg ed for 5-7 days before pct. I personally would not run Clomid because of the sides it has compared to nolv. I like nolv at 40mg ed for 2 wks, then 20 mg for 2 more, and 10mg ed for another couple or few wks. If you have any gyno symptoms simply take 80mg of nolv ed for 5 days or until symptoms go away, and then continue it at 20mg for the rest.

[SMILEY FACE]

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1) Should I take anything for the liver…from the affects from the Dbol? ALA?

2) If I feel signs of gyno coming on what should I do? Since it could be caused by any of the 3 things I am taking (dbol, test or tren).

3) Will B6 be enough to cover myself from getting gyno from Tren? If so is it ok to run B6 for like 6 months at 200mg ED.(Week 1 – all the way to the end of PCT)

4) How does the dosage of the HCG look? Should I lower it? I will be running it for about 3 months. I know HCG can give you gyno too.

5) How does the PCT look? Should I run Aromasin instead of Nolvadex throughout PCT? Should I run the Nolvadex (or Aromasin) and B6 for 2 months? I did that to try and stop a rebound effect from happening to me.

I had a rebound effect happen to me on my last cycle…like 4 months after my PCT ended…It sucked!! Don’t want that happening again.

1: yes liver 52
2: most likely from dbol
3: I NEVER USED B6, I WOULD DO NOLV, BUT DON'T DO NOLV UNLESS U FEEL IT COZ NOLD WILL CUT UR GAIN DOWN A LIL BIT
4: I TAKE IT 1000IU EVERY 3 DAYS OR 5 DAYS DEPENDS HOW HARD U ARE SHUT DOWM..
5:NEVER USED AROMA

[teutonic]

TweetJsJs24 - for the HCG I would rather run it from weeks 5 -16 at 2x a week. I'm still up in the air if I should lower it to 312mg . Thanks for the liver suggestion and PCT suggestion. I never did PCT without Clomid. If Clomid is more beneficial to take with Nolva then I would just deal with the sides.

BIG_MIKE1979 - Nolva won't do anything for gyno from TREN that's why I would take B6...it seems most take B6 to prevent gyno from TREN

I've read that(by Iron Addict) the toxicity of orals is SEVERELY OVERSTATED...so I'm not sure if I will need to take anything since I'm only doing 30mg of dbol for 4 weeks


Would it make that much of a difference if I did the HCG at 312mg instead of 500mg?

[supasaiyan99]

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JsJs24 - for the HCG I would rather run it from weeks 5 -16 at 2x a week. I'm still up in the air if I should lower it to 312mg . Thanks for the liver suggestion and PCT suggestion. I never did PCT without Clomid. If Clomid is more beneficial to take with Nolva then I would just deal with the sides.

BIG_MIKE1979 - Nolva won't do anything for gyno from TREN that's why I would take B6...it seems most take B6 to prevent gyno from TREN

I've read that(by Iron Addict) the toxicity of orals is SEVERELY OVERSTATED...so I'm not sure if I will need to take anything since I'm only doing 30mg of dbol for 4 weeks


Would it make that much of a difference if I did the HCG at 312mg instead of 500mg?

500mg of HCG is ok. I personally would run it 3 times a week. Why would you want to lower it to 312mg? How did you get that dosage? usually it's dosed in I.U's. 5000 I.U per ampule is the norm. Is it from a UG (don't mention the name)?
I'm not sure on your livestyle but me I'd like to be safe rather than sorry. I'd take Liv 52 just as an added precaution. It's like wearing a seat belt when you drive. You might not crash but one day you might!!!

[teutonic]

Tweetsupasaiyan99 - For the HCG I was thinking 500mg might be too much and 250 might be too little so I thought 312mg is a good median. (I would take 8cc of Bac. water and mix it with 5000 IU's and that would give me 625mg per 1cc so a half a cc would be about 312mg)

I would prefer to run it 2x a week...I think 3x a week is a bit much.


Can anyone recommend a good place to get Liv 52? Also at what dosages would you take it?

[SMILEY FACE]

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Can anyone recommend a good place to get Liv 52? Also at what dosages would you take it[/B]?

www.herbalprovider.com...they are on sale too

[teutonic]

TweetThanks BIG_MIKE1979 - whats the dosage one should use? Also I would just run it during the time I am on the Dbol...correct?