Opinions on cycle

[NATE]

TweetThere is this guy that i know and have somewhat become friends with in the last year or so. I knew he used gear but i never asked what he was using and such. This last weekend i saw him at a bar and he was all buddy buddy with me...well, to make a long story short he then tells me his cycle.This guy has been running Sostenon 250 for over two years using a 1 month on one month off approach. He injects twice a week. I really didn't know what to say to him, i actually thought he was kidding and i chuckled at him. But no, he was serious.

So, i told him what i thought about it and then said i would come here to get more opinions. I asked him why he did it that way and his answer was " thats how i used M1-T so i thought it was right"

He made no mention of pct while off.

He is about 6' and probably close to 250lbs while being 42 years old. he is a pretty decent sized guy with not the typical 40 year old spare tire....

To me this "cycle" makes no sense but i don't consider myself an expert on the subject either.

i printed up and gave to him some pretty good info on receptors from the board...I don't know if he read them.

Opinions?

[Skarhead]

Tweetbad... the body doesnt get time to acclimate to the new muscle mass and no pct there is no way for the body to recover

[a-bomb83]

TweetNATE, i've mentioned this before on other boards, but there are 2 different people that cycle. one, are people who are a part of the boards and know about 10-12-16-20 week cycles, pct, injection frequency and a general basic knowledge of all compounds. two, are the others. the ones who barely know what the internet is, let alone being a member of a message baord. those are the people who run real off the wall cycles. like a buddy of mine who was running sust once per week, suspension twice per week, winstrol, dbol, and drols. needdless to say, nothing worked. he didn't diet corectly and his test doses were too low, especially the susp. hopefully you see where i'm comming from. i know TONS of peeps who use gear that are not a part of the internet bb community and their cycles are so off the wall, it would blow your alls minds. pretty much, HCG, nolvadex, arimidex, clomid...all unheard of to them.

[NATE]

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NATE, i've mentioned this before on other boards, but there are 2 different people that cycle. one, are people who are a part of the boards and know about 10-12-16-20 week cycles, pct, injection frequency and a general basic knowledge of all compounds. two, are the others. the ones who barely know what the internet is, let alone being a member of a message baord. those are the people who run real off the wall cycles. like a buddy of mine who was running sust once per week, suspension twice per week, winstrol, dbol, and drols. needdless to say, nothing worked. he didn't diet corectly and his test doses were too low, especially the susp. hopefully you see where i'm comming from. i know TONS of peeps who use gear that are not a part of the internet bb community and their cycles are so off the wall, it would blow your alls minds. pretty much, HCG, nolvadex, arimidex, clomid...all unheard of to them.

I know what you mean. In this particular case though, he gets decent results and has the physique to back up his claims. I think thats the reason he stuck with it and didn't question it.

[jazzjackrabbit]

TweetI think his "cycle" is effective on him because of the longer esters in sust. He is only at most 2 weeks without test at all in his body.
It will be hard for him to recover!

[NATE]

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I think his "cycle" is effective on him because of the longer esters in sust. He is only at most 2 weeks without test at all in his body.
It will be hard for him to recover!

After 2 years of doing this i think recovery is a HUGE issue but one he has obviously overlooked and does not plan to do.

[a-bomb83]

Tweetyes it may have worked per sey, but it would have worked BETTER had he done it right. IMO.

[supasaiyan99]

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NATE, i've mentioned this before on other boards, but there are 2 different people that cycle. one, are people who are a part of the boards and know about 10-12-16-20 week cycles, pct, injection frequency and a general basic knowledge of all compounds. two, are the others. the ones who barely know what the internet is, let alone being a member of a message baord. those are the people who run real off the wall cycles. like a buddy of mine who was running sust once per week, suspension twice per week, winstrol, dbol, and drols. needdless to say, nothing worked. he didn't diet corectly and his test doses were too low, especially the susp. hopefully you see where i'm comming from. i know TONS of peeps who use gear that are not a part of the internet bb community and their cycles are so off the wall, it would blow your alls minds. pretty much, HCG, nolvadex, arimidex, clomid...all unheard of to them.

You got it right on bro. I know a guy who doesn't even own a PC and his cycles are off the wall. But he is old enough to be my dad and has been juicing since he was a teen so telling him what he's been doing wrong would offend him. He is pretty huge about 5'5" 200lbs lean! When he is off cycle he injects test or deca once a month, he says "to keep the fuel flowing." Plus he uses doctor prescribed test gel.

[NATE]

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yes it may have worked per sey, but it would have worked BETTER had he done it right. IMO.

There is no doubt that there is a better way to go about this. That is why i posted this, to show him that i'm not the only one that thinks the way i do and/or to show him other (better) approaches to maximize his cycles, from people that know what they are talking about.

[a-bomb83]

Tweetso have you showed him this? does he know whats up yet?

[NATE]

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so have you showed him this? does he know whats up yet?

I have but i doubt it serves the purpose i thought it would. Theres simply not enough "other" info to sway him from his current patterns...

It's cool though, i said what i had to say to him....for whatever that is worth.

[Phreak]

Tweethe is probably big from years of training and genetic potential.

there are guys out there who grow from mowing the lawn. there's always going to be the guy who takes 1 ml of testarona 200 a week, eats nothing but hot dogs and chips, drinks loads of beer, and benches 400, squats 500, and DL's 600, all the while being huge, ripped, and vascular.

you'll never be able to tell those guys anything without getting the "well i've done it this way for 20 years and it worked for me."..

just don't worry about it; instead be pissed off that you don't have those genetics lol