TweetUnless you are wanting to just harden up at the end of your cycle, I would not use the winstrol. Being 170lbs right now, I would focus on gaining as much as mass as possible using the compounds you listed above. But if you do decide to use it 50mg eod for 4-5 weeks would suffice. Be sure to continue drinking lots of water or the joints will suffer, and add some milk thistle for your liver. Otherwise just save the winny for another time when you are trying to harden up.. JMHO