A No Test cycle?

[thehamme]

TweetHas any body ran a cycle similar to this?

anavar- 35mg ED 2mnths

Proviron-75mg ED 2mnths

GH- 6iu on Tue, Wed, Thur ( a new protocal of cycling that duplicates our natural growth cycles) 3mnths

T-3 12.5mcg ED 1mnth

Aromison- 12.5mg ED 2mnths

I wanted to try a cutting cycle without test, hence the high dose of proviron but im not sure about it.

this will be my 7th cycle, past ones have been pretty heavy
I weigh in at about 6'0 220 23yrs

thanks for any input

thehamme

[BIGMOFO]

Tweetnot me! I have never done a cycle without test

[space mountain]

Tweet^^^ ditto imo test should be in any cycle!

[mick-G]

TweetI have heard some pretty good results from var only cycles, but they were using at least 50mg ed. I would perhaps at least use a low dosage of testosterone, because var is expensive to be using and you can get optimal results with even a low dosage of say 250-300mg/wk of testosterone added, and up the var. also no need to use aroma @ 12.5 mg ed, eod will suffice.

[HighBall5]

TweetI ran var with prop, and I had to drop it after 5 weeks. I was running 50-70mgs a day with 160mg prop EOD. The var worked awesome...better than I thought, but I had the worst heartburn everyday and also it made me not hungry AT ALL. Since I was doing a bulking cycle I dropped it, and my appetite came back.

I have never done a cycle without test, but if your cutting you'll love Var.

[orion76]

TweetProviron is used in general medicine to improve sex drive and increase sperm count, among other things.

Supposedly you can use Proviron to maintain your sex drive if you do not want to run Test. In addition it also prevents aromatisation so you don't need to run an estrogen blocker while using Proviron. I haven't tried it myself but plan to do the same on my next cycle.

here's some info from the package insert:
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PHARMACOLOGICAL ACTION
Proviron balances a deficiency of androgen formation which begins to fall gradually with increasing age. Therefore, Proviron is suitable for treatment of all conditions caused by deficient endogenous androgen formation. In the recommended therapeutic dosage, Proviron will not impair spermatogenesis. Proviron is especially well tolerated by the liver.

INDICATIONS
• Declining physical activity and mental alertness in middle- and old-aged men
Reduced efficiency, easy fatigability, lack of concentration, weak memory, disturbances of libido and potency, irritability, disturbances of sleep, depressive moods, and general vegetative complaints are often attributed to androgen-deficiency. These complaints can be overcome or improved by the use of Proviron tablets.
• Potency disturbances
Proviron overcomes potency disturbances due to androgen-deficiency. It may also be of use as supplementary therapy in cases of diminished potency where androgen-deficiency is not the primary cause.
• Hypogonadism
Growth, development and function of androgen-dependent target organs are stimulated by Proviron. It promotes development of secondary male sex characteristics in cases of prepuberal hypogonadism. Full clinical and laboratory investigations are necessary in all cases of young patients prior to commencement of treatment. Proviron tablets may also be used as a substitution therapy in cases where a loss of gonadal function has occurred post-puberally.
• Infertility
Oligozoospermia and deficient Leydig-cell secretion may be the cause of infertility. With Proviron treatment, sperm count can be increased, the quality improved and, furthermore, a higher fructose concentration up to normal values can be achieved thus increasing the chances of procreation.

[orion76]

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Aromison- 12.5mg ED 2mnths

Bro, you won't need this if you are running Proviron, in addition it's not really necessary with Anavar either.