Wide open gaps may cause Mad Cow to strike back

[jackson vile]

TweetThe Mad Cow disease, which was first spotted in the US in December 2003, could very well affect cattle once again.

With cattle feed being substituted with cheap alternatives like chicken litter, cattle blood and restaurant leftovers, the disease could once again start infecting the country's livestock.

Though the Bush administration had taken steps to keep the disease under check, it became business as usual when the cameras were turned off and the media coverage dissipated.

John Stauber, an activist and co-author of "Mad Cow USA: Could the Nightmare Happen Here?" explained that "the entire US policy is designed to protect the livestock industry's access to slaughterhouse waste as cheap feed."

The government is now investigating another possible case of the disease in the United States. The beef cow had been tested last November and declared disease-free, but when new tests came up positive, a laboratory in England started conducting more tests.

The Food and Drug Administration promised to tighten feed rules shortly after the first case of the disease was confirmed in the US.

The FDA had promised it would ban blood, poultry litter and restaurant waste from cattle feed and order feed mills to use separate equipment to make cattle feed. But, it has still not done what it had promised.

Unlike other infections, mad cow disease doesn't spread through the air. As far as scientists know, cows get the disease only by eating brain and other nerve tissues of already infected animals. Ground-up cattle remains from slaughtering operations were used as protein in cattle feed until 1997, when an outbreak of mad cow cases in Britain prompted the United States to order the feed industry to stop doing it. Unlike Britain, however, the US feed ban has exceptions.

For example, it is legal to put ground-up cattle remains in chicken feed. Feed that spills from cages mixes with chicken waste on the ground, then is swept up for use in cattle feed.

Cattle protein can also be fed to chickens, pigs and household pets, which presents the risk of accidental contamination in a feed mill.

Companies, which process slaughter waste, say that the restrictions would be costly and create hazards from leftover waste.

"We process about 50 billion pounds of product annually. That is a convoy of semi trucks, four lanes wide, running from New York to LA every year," said Jim Hodges, president of the meatpacking industry's American Meat Institute Foundation.

Cattle trade "should not resume unless and until" loopholes in the feed ban are closed, according to an internal Agriculture Department memo, written by its working group of experts in the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. The R-CALF United Stockgrowers of America obtained the memo as part of its lawsuit against the department.

Even though the loopholes remain, the Agriculture Department late last year approved reopening the border. Only a federal judge in Montana is keeping the border closed. He sided with R-CALF, which fears that another infected cow shipped in might be carrying the disease, just like the lone US case found in Washington state in 2003.

[HungarianBeast]

Tweetplease post your source for the article.

[jackson vile]

TweetDo a google, or better yet look at my other 2 posts on this.

Thanks

[HungarianBeast]

Tweet

Do a google, or better yet look at my other 2 posts on this.

Thanks

So, you have no source for this info?

I have seen your other posts on various topics, including the one quoting "information" from a bogus, look-alike website.

[jackson vile]

Tweet

So, you have no source for this info?

I have seen your other posts on various topics, including the one quoting "information" from a bogus, look-alike website.

No you were wrong about that, so


Not sure what your problem is but get off it and relax, and quit being a lazy bastard, look at my other post of mad cow and their sources and google it.

Otherwise get something better to do then posting moronic coments after everyone of my posts

[jackson vile]

Tweethttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...International/







Mad cow back on the menu?


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Friday, June 17, 2005 Updated at 2:52 PM EDT

Associated Press


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Washington — U.S. cattle are eating chicken litter, cattle blood and restaurant leftovers that could help transmit mad-cow disease — a gap in the defences that the Bush administration promised to close nearly 18 months ago.



"Once the cameras were turned off and the media coverage dissipated, then it's been business as usual, no real reform, just keep feeding slaughterhouse waste," said John Stauber, an activist and co-author of Mad Cow USA: Could the Nightmare Happen Here? Loopholes in the defence He contended that "the entire U.S. policy is designed to protect the livestock industry's access to slaughterhouse waste as cheap feed."

The Food and Drug Administration promised to tighten feed rules shortly after the first case of mad cow disease was confirmed in the United States in a Washington cow in December, 2003.

"Today we are bolstering our BSE firewalls to protect the public," Mark McClellan, then-FDA commissioner, said on Jan. 26, 2004. The FDA said it would ban blood, poultry litter and restaurant-plate waste from cattle feed and require feed mills to use separate equipment to make cattle feed.

Last July, however, the FDA scrapped those restrictions. Mr. McClellan's replacement, Lester Crawford, said international experts were calling for even stronger rules and that the FDA would produce new restrictions in line with the experts' report.

Today, the FDA still has not done what it promised to do. The agency declined interviews, saying in a statement only that there is no timeline for new restrictions.

"It's just a lot of talk," said Rosa DeLauro, a senior congressional Democrat on food and farm issues. "It's a lot of talk, a lot of press releases, and no action."

Unlike other infections, bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) — as mad-cow disease is known officially) — does not spread through the air. As far as scientists know, cows contract the disease only by eating brain and other nerve tissues of already-infected cows.

Ground-up cattle remains left over from slaughtering operations were used as protein in cattle feed until 1997, when a mad-cow outbreak in Britain prompted the United States to order the feed industry to quit doing it. Unlike Britain, however, the U.S. feed ban has exceptions.

For example, it is legal to put ground-up cattle remains in chicken feed. Feed that spills from cages mixes with chicken waste on the ground, then is swept up for use in cattle feed.

Scientists believe the BSE protein will survive the feed-making process and may even survive the trip through a chicken's gut.

That amounts to the legal feeding of some cattle protein back to cattle, said Linda Detwiler, a former Agriculture Department veterinarian who led the department's work on mad cow for several years.

"I would stipulate it's probably not a real common thing, and the amounts are pretty small," Ms. Detwiler said.

Still, if cattle protein is in the system, she said in an interview, it is being fed to cattle.

Cattle protein can also be fed to chickens, pigs and household pets, which presents the risk of accidental contamination in a feed mill.

The General Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, said last month that a feed mill, which it did not identify, accidentally mixed banned protein into cattle feed. By the time inspectors discovered the problem and the mill issued a recall, potentially contaminated cattle feed had already been on the market for about a year, GAO said.

Rendering companies contend that new restrictions would be costly and create hazards from leftover waste. They say changes are not justified.

"We process about 50 billion pounds of product annually — in visual terms, that is a convoy of semi trucks, four lanes wide, running from New York to L.A. every year," said Jim Hodges, president of the meatpacking industry's American Meat Institute Foundation.

While new restrictions stalled, the administration also ignored the advice of its own experts to close the loopholes before allowing Canadian cattle back into the United States.

Cattle trade "should not resume unless and until" loopholes in the feed ban are closed, according to an internal Agriculture Department memo, written by its working group of BSE experts in the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, dated June 15, 2003, shortly after Canada's first case of mad-cow disease.

The ranchers' group, R-CALF United Stockgrowers of America, obtained the memo as part of its lawsuit against the department.

Even though the loopholes remain, the Agriculture Department late last year approved reopening the border. Only a federal judge in Montana is keeping the border closed. He sided with R-CALF, which fears another infected cow shipped south might be carrying the disease, just like the lone U.S. case found in Washington state in 2003.

Today, the department maintains that much has been learned since the memo was written. Lisa Ferguson, senior staff veterinarian for the department, said the memo did not mean the government thought the feed ban was inadequate "or anything other than what it was, a group of suggestions from a group of employees at that point in time."

"Is our feed ban completely perfect and absolutely airtight?" she said. "No, I don't think anybody would claim that. Could changes be made? Yes, changes can be made."

Loopholes in cattle feed

• Ground-up cattle remains can be fed to chicken, and chicken litter is fed back to cattle. Poultry feed that spills from cages mixes with chicken waste on the ground, then is swept up for use in cattle feed. Scientists believe the BSE protein will survive the feed-making process and may survive being digested in chickens.
• Cattle blood can be fed to cattle and often comes in the form of milk replacement for calves. Some scientists believe blood from infected cattle could transmit the disease.
• Restaurant leftovers, called "plate waste," are allowed in cattle feed. Cuts of meat that contain part of the spinal cord, or become contaminated by spinal tissue while being prepared, could be infected with BSE.
• Factories are not required to use separate production lines and equipment for feed that contains cattle remains and feed that does not, creating the risk that cattle remains could accidentally go into cattle feed.
• Besides being fed to poultry, cattle protein is allowed in feed for pigs and household pets, creating the possibility it could mistakenly be fed to cattle.
• Unfiltered tallow, or fat, is allowed in cattle feed, yet it has protein impurities that could be a source of mad cow disease.
  Associated Press

[jackson vile]

TweetAnd the google that escapes you https://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...TF-8&q=mad+cow

[HungarianBeast]

TweetSorry, not lazy. I just don't have time search google on vague topics that bring about thousands of hits.

I don't have a problem with you. I just don't like people posting such information on important topics without sources. Please at least cut and paste the link in which you find your information into your post. This saves time for the readers on taking the information as valid. I, personally, do not have the time to research posted information that does not have a source to validate such info. Thanks.

[jackson vile]

TweetSo I missed a few links what is the big deal? And then here you are offending me and making incorrect statements about the washington times websites.

All my other post have the source posted except 2 out of how many?

As for being smart I don't think I'm smarter than anyone on this board, thus 2 of my post don't have a linky.

[BIGMOFO]

Tweet[QUOTE=jackson vile]So I missed a few links what is the big deal? And then here you are offending me and making incorrect statements about the washington times websites.

All my other post have the source posted except 2 out of how many?

As for being smart I don't think I'm smarter than anyone on this board, thus 2 of my post don't have a linky.[/QUOTE


How did he offend you? He has a very valid point, some people like to see where it came from thats all! You need to calm your ass down, with an attitude like you are showing now, you will not last long around here! Just relax and post your info and if you can where you get it!

[geesler]

Tweetlol jacksonville too much test? no worries man Im sure HB meant no harm, just was asking for a link to the article, no need to call names

[jackson vile]

Tweet[QUOTE=bigmofo]

So I missed a few links what is the big deal? And then here you are offending me and making incorrect statements about the washington times websites.

All my other post have the source posted except 2 out of how many?

As for being smart I don't think I'm smarter than anyone on this board, thus 2 of my post don't have a linky.[/QUOTE


How did he offend you? He has a very valid point, some people like to see where it came from thats all! You need to calm your ass down, with an attitude like you are showing now, you will not last long around here! Just relax and post your info and if you can where you get it!

Excuse me you are talking with out any reference of the situation.

These have references just not the link, says right in there who is writing, futher more if you really want a link that bad look for it on google.

I takes the same amount of time to google the head line and find the source as it does to post a complaint.

Further more I will direct you to the thread that I am in reference to https://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=49512
Where he said that I was miss informing people and that those that belived this was stupid.

However he is the fool for not realizing that
https://www.washtimes.com/
https://washingtontimes.com/

Is the same damn website.

When he made his first post did I make some asshole coment? No I ignored it, but then he continued to posting about it.

If a post is not important enough for you to google then why complain.

Like I said I have been posting in here non-stop and I missed two damn links, but they did have references.

So what is the big stink about?

[pigmeat]

TweetSettle down and play nice!!!!
All that was asked is if you had a source for the info, or if it was your oppinion.You have no right to insult one of our vets, or any other member for that matter

[Slightly Enhanced]

TweetJackson, if you are going to post in the political forum you need to have some thicker skin, I don't see anything wrong with HB's request.

This is a cool board, however it is up to you make friends. You are welcome here, but please be cordial..........

[HungarianBeast]

TweetOk, I did an IP search on both websites, and I was indeed wrong about them (washington times).


Post #1 in this thread has no source.