var and test?

[tnert55]

Tweetive been researching for about a year now, still pondering whether or not to do a cycle. Im up to 186lbs now @ 5'8. IM guessing around 14%BF. I've done m1t a few times. I must say thought it worked. Since trainging a year ago I have gone from 145lbs to 186....Benching 270 to now 320. Squattting 225x8, now squatting 405x6. I look alot bigger. I just got of m1t for like my second time. Saw some minor strength gains, gained 6lbs. Alot of my acomplishments came from hard work, eating alot, and gettin enough sleep. Regardless of all this im seeing my size come to a hault. My strength still goes up but I cant seem to gain the muscle I used to. OKAY now that I gave yall a little facts about me here is what i want to accomplish...I want to gain strength, size, but also loose some bodyfat. I know if i run the typical beg cycle enan & dbol im gonna gain alot of weight. Thats why i was thinking of a cycle of var and test...any others that might work better. I wanna get BF down to atleast 10% but keep my strength and size. any help with this would be tremendous ive been looking online forever to find out what to do...

[Equalizer]

Tweeti would def run the Test with either some eq or deca, you can go with the anavar but i wouldnt myself.

[JsJs24]

TweetIf you're getting those kinds of gains then I would stay natural for longer.

[Skarhead]

TweetIf you have only been training for 1+ year I would stay natural for at least 2-3 more years.

IMO if u're suggesting that u've stopped gaining b/c u're @ ur natual limit I think it's more of your training and diet. Change up your training and try something new.

[TRAM]

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If you're getting those kinds of gains then I would stay natural for longer.

AGREED, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS, UP YOUR FOOD INTAKE, YOUR PUTTING MUSCLE ON AT FAST RATE SO YOU'LL NEED TO FEED THAT NEW MUSCLE MORE THAN YOU WERE, AS FAR AS AAS GO, IF THATS YOU IN YOUR AVATAR I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT PUTTING ON TO MUCH WEIGHT FROM TEST & DBOL YOU WOULD DROP IT (UNWANTED WEIGHT) RATHER EASY W/ THAT TYPE OF MATABOLISM KEEP YOUR DIET CLEAN (MOST IMPORTANT). I BELIEVE SOME PPL WERE BORN WITHOUT THE RIGHT GENETICS TO BECOME WHAT THEY WANT TO BE PHYSICALLY. SOME ARE BORN W/ RIGHT COMBINATION OF GENETICS AND GROW LIKE A WEED FROM JUST BEING ACTIVE AND EATING RIGHT SOUDS LIKE YOU HAVE GOOD GENETICS AND GROW FAST WELL COMPARED TO MOST PPL. THINK ABOUT IT SOME MORE AND HANG AROUND THIS SITE THERE'S MUCH MORE TO READ HERE.

[tnert55]

Tweeti know how to eat believe me, ive been training since i was 16, so thats 7 yrs. i was just sayin most of my big gains came from last year. I probably will hold of but i just want something that will make me stronger, somewhat bigger and take some bodyfat off as well?

[Skarhead]

Tweetthats all diet... I think if you mastered that the gains u would get off gear would be twice as significant.

i know how to eat believe me, ive been training since i was 16, so thats 7 yrs. i was just sayin most of my big gains came from last year. I probably will hold of but i just want something that will make me stronger, somewhat bigger and take some bodyfat off as well?

[HighBall5]

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i would def run the Test with either some eq or deca, you can go with the anavar but i wouldnt myself.

why wouldn't you run var?

[mick-G]

TweetI think he said hes been training since 16, so thats 7 years if im correct. If your training and diet has been in check and you believe you have reached your nat potential and can not gain even with an increase in cals, it is your decision to make. What most newbies do is a 10wk cycle of test cypionate or enathate @ 400-500mg/wk. Some add dbol for the first 5-6 wks of 30-40mg ed, but it is not necessary, and yes you could use anavar as a jumpstart instead of dbol, but drink plenty of h20, take some liver supplements like milk thistle or Liv-52.

[mj23]

Tweetand dont forget clomid and nolva. Actually, liquidex is even better than nolva.

[Skarhead]

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and dont forget clomid and nolva. Actually, liquidex is even better than nolva.

L-dex and nolva are two seperate things (one is AI one is an AE)... however nolva has shown ability to "f" up the eyes so i only have it on hand in case of gyno. my PCT from now on will just be clomid + Ldex

[mick-G]

TweetYep, i would also use the ldex .25mg ed. Just take a syringe and measure it and squirt it in your fav beverage in the morning or you can just squirt it in your mouth.

[Harry Tasker]

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L-dex and nolva are two seperate things (one is AI one is an AE)... however nolva has shown ability to "f" up the eyes so i only have it on hand in case of gyno. my PCT from now on will just be clomid + Ldex

WHAT does AI and AE mean??

Ur sayinh Nolva is only good for gyno? For my 1st cycle i was just gonna use L-DEX, and ditch out on the nolva. what do u think?

[tnert55]

Tweeti got another cycle that i found offline, it said i could gain 10-15 lean pounds and shred bodyfat...it was a 8 week cycle of deca and clen?

[Harry Tasker]

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i got another cycle that i found offline, it said i could gain 10-15 lean pounds and shred bodyfat...it was a 8 week cycle of deca and clen?

from what i have been researching deca and clen CANnot do that..

Maybe Testo E and Deca stacked together could?