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      i have recently finished a 12 week cycle, and am now looking to start cutting up, i am keeping my protein levels high and my carbs low, can any one else shed some light on this situation for me or does any one have any ideas or good tips please, i am doing cv 3 times a week at a low resistance. can any one suggest any good cutters i can take?? all advice is much appreciated.
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      wow, that is a broad question, bro...are you trying to use aas while cutting or stay natural, and are you doing PCT?

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      i am looking to use aas to cut up yeah, i aint doing a pct yet cos i was thinking of taking some cutters, i just want to get rid of the belly i have aquired through bulking and want to harden up.
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      take some time off and then do ur cutting bro, and depending if u wanna do like long acting like eq that is mim 14-16 weeks, or quick acting like winny, tren, suspe, clen, prop..
      but i need ur history and ur stats b4 i give my opinion

      Main thing to lose the gut is dieting and doing cardio

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      my cycle was 12 weeks, 500 ml of sust a week and 4ml of deca a week, with 5 weeks of dbl, i now weigh around 185lbs and have lost most of the water retention but kept most of my size and gains, i know the best thing is cardio and diet for my gut but i want to harden up aswell, im 23 and 6ft and i've been off my cycle now for over a month and half. i want to start getting ready for the summer months. any suggestions on what diet would be best??
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      Diet: Ketogenic
      Cardio: 30-45min A.M. on empty stomach @ 3/4 X wk
      AAS timing: wait another month and a half (therefore a total of 12 wk) timeoff=timeon

      *As for what cycle to use....like Big Mike said, what's your cycle history? or was that your first?
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      That being said.......

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      no it was my third cycle, but it was my biggest and i have had the biggest gains from this one and kept the most size.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nobbyrn
      my cycle was 12 weeks, 500 ml of sust a week and 4ml of deca a week, with 5 weeks of dbl, i now weigh around 185lbs and have lost most of the water retention but kept most of my size and gains, i know the best thing is cardio and diet for my gut but i want to harden up aswell, im 23 and 6ft and i've been off my cycle now for over a month and half. i want to start getting ready for the summer months. any suggestions on what diet would be best??
      uve been off for a month and a half, and did no PCT. Im surprised u kept anything.

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      If you are 6' and 185 now after 3 cycles, I suspect you may have jumped on AAS before building up a quality base. I think you should take a considerable time off and concentrate on training and diet. At 23, you should still have significant natural gaining capacity in you. Maybe you should post up your training split and give a rough idea of how you usually eat......
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      u need to take another 1 month and half off, and like FAD said: NO PCT at all....

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      i was holding off on the pct cos i thought i was going to be going back on the gear to cut up, i have now started taking my pct and am going to wait a few more months before going on anything else. i will however diet and watch my diet a bit better, thanks for all the help guys
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      sounds good

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      Quote Originally Posted by nobbyrn
      i was holding off on the pct cos i thought i was going to be going back on the gear to cut up, i have now started taking my pct and am going to wait a few more months before going on anything else. i will however diet and watch my diet a bit better, thanks for all the help guys
      glad taht u started ur pct..... and take some time off bro and when u are ready come back and ask and i will be gald to answer any questions u have

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      cheers for all the great advice, have taken it all onboard and am going to get stuck in with this diet and cardio, im a little bit lost on the old diet part, ive tried doing some research but still none the wiser, i know i got to keep protein levels high and carbs low but what else?
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      Theres different ways you can diet, it depends mainly on if you want to go into Ketosis or not. A Ketogenic diet is more of an extreme change than just dieting regulary.. and requires much more dedication to do it right. IT all depends on what you want to do.

      I have good success dieting with the following:

      Keeping carbs to only low GI/good carbs
      Making sure to get enough EFA's (supplementing with Udo's choice oil blend- I drink it right out of the bottle )
      Limiting those carbs to only daytime (no/very low carbs after 6pm)
      Getting 1-1.5g protein per lb/bodyweight.
      Doing light cardio in the morning on empty stomach. (20-30 min)

      The more intense cardio you do and the lower you drop your cals the more muscle you seem to lose along with the fat though- so thats the tricky area.
      (I've heard that low intensity cardio for 40-60 minutes [ie. incline walking, etc] is less likely to utiilze your muscle proteins to turn into glycogen and more like to ustilize fats, but thats something I want to research more)

      If you wanted to do something more extreme and go into ketosis, which will for sure make you drop some bf quickly, check out this thread, some good articles on ketogenic style diet, and the results from a few here who have just done it (thanks edvedr).

      The Anabolic Diet and Ketosis
      https://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=47597

      Best of luck to you!

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