at the request of SVEN....

[gymphreak]

TweetHeres my baby im gonna run when im allowed to run long esters again....

1-6 tren base transdermal 200mg/d
1-6 Test suspension 200mg/d
1-4 Halo 50mg/d
1-12 Test Enan 1.5/w
1-12 Deca 1.2g/w
1-12 Tren Enan 1.5g/w
13-16 Dbol 60mg/d
13-25 Deca 300mg/w (joints)
13-26 Tren ace 150mg ED
13-26 Test Enan 2g/w
13-26 Primo 1.5g/w
13-25 EQ 1.5g/w
19-28 Winny 100mg/d
1-28 HCG 500 IU/w
1-28 Nolva 20mg/d

29-36 Pheedno's PCT

Possibly will run GH, IGF and PGF2A if i can afford them

[solidground]

Tweetdamn bro thats prety crazy..what are your stats..and why do you want to run allof that within one cycle.imo no need for 8 different compounds, just stick with tops 3 -4 injects and 1-2 orals..im curious to why you want to run all of that i dont see a need for it to make good gains

[gymphreak]

TweetHonestly, im one of these people that like to play with heavy cycles. ive mixed alot of different compounds, and what im doing is basically doing two cycles in one cycle....the transition at the 12/13 week mark is basically to switch over to avoid the body getting used to the compounds momentarily. Im actually thinking of splitting the two cycles and doing a blast/cruise method, but use all short ester compounds.

my stats: 6'2, 298lbs (weighed myself today), at about 15-17% bodyfat

[badasz32]

TweetWOW!! Did u win the lottery?

[gymphreak]

Tweet

WOW!! Did u win the lottery?

LMAO...no...im a homebrewer

[badasz32]

TweetI need to learn how to cook, im the kind of guy that can f*ck up a bowl of cereal. I not allowed to play in the kitchen. lol

[gymphreak]

Tweetanother modification of the cycle i might do (similar transition from one whole cycle to a B/C cycle....)

1-6 tren base transdermal or Tren suspension 200mg/d
1-6 Test suspension 200mg/d
1-4 Halo 50mg/d
1-6 NPP 100mg/d
1-6 Bold base 100mg/d

Cruise 12 weeks 400mg Prop/w and Clomid pct

1-4 Dbol 60mg/d
1-6 Npp 50mg/d (joints)
1-6 Tren ace 150mg ED
1-6 Test suspension 200mg ED
1-6Winny 100mg/d

throughout the whole cycle....
HCG 500 IU/w
Nolva 20mg/d

[solidground]

Tweeti like that one better

[Fit2bLarge]

Tweetheavy!

[Gooseneck]

TweetWTF ??!! You might as well do a blood to gear transfusion.

[geesler]

Tweet

Heres my baby im gonna run when im allowed to run long esters again....

Were you ever allowed? lol

[diggi]

TweetDamn..I thought Big Mikes cycle was heavy..

[mick-G]

TweetOne thing hcg @ 500iu won't do much if anything. Run it three time ew at 500IU for 1500IU ew. Other than that damn, thats a heavy cycle, lol!

[Sven]

Tweet

Heres my baby im gonna run when im allowed to run long esters again....

1-6 tren base transdermal 200mg/d
1-6 Test suspension 200mg/d
1-4 Halo 50mg/d
1-12 Test Enan 1.5/w
1-12 Deca 1.2g/w
1-12 Tren Enan 1.5g/w
13-16 Dbol 60mg/d
13-25 Deca 300mg/w (joints)
13-26 Tren ace 150mg ED
13-26 Test Enan 2g/w
13-26 Primo 1.5g/w
13-25 EQ 1.5g/w
19-28 Winny 100mg/d
1-28 HCG 500 IU/w
1-28 Nolva 20mg/d

29-36 Pheedno's PCT

Possibly will run GH, IGF and PGF2A if i can afford them

Thank you so much Gymphreak, I appreciate it.

SO, first ? I have is on your Tren E use.
The word lately is that tren E is best at low doses, like 400mg/week. You are running tren E at 1.5 grams aweek. How will that affect you?
Also a popular, no-no is running tren and deca together. I'm sure this is preference, but I see you chose to. What have your experiences been with these two in the past?

thanks

Please elaborate on these for me.

[gymphreak]

Tweet

Thank you so much Gymphreak, I appreciate it.

SO, first ? I have is on your Tren E use.
The word lately is that tren E is best at low doses, like 400mg/week. You are running tren E at 1.5 grams aweek. How will that affect you?
Also a popular, no-no is running tren and deca together. I'm sure this is preference, but I see you chose to. What have your experiences been with these two in the past?

thanks

Please elaborate on these for me.

As for the Tren E issue, i find that tren itself works well in higher doses for me, as it tends to give me a greater increase in strength and leans me out well. The night sweats for me are not that bad, as i always sweat at night, so im used to that. Lenthargy is not a big issue, some nights it does get bad, but other wise, its pretty relative. I find that the lengthargy does not change with the doses for me, rather than its how my day goes that affects how well i sleep. The agression, i find that im very calm and collected while on tren since im always one that controls my agression and keep my mind calm and just let things slide, so tren doesnt really affect me that way. So that brings up the argument about why ppl experience rage while on tren, but thats a whole different thread so im not going to elaborate on that since you already know about it....

As for running tren and deca together... I have ran the two compounds together at 700mg tren ace and 800mg NPP before (if i remember correctly, but i might have used Deca instead of NPP...im brainfarting right now..) Anyhow, i played it safe and had an assload of bromo on hand. basically i ran a tab (2.5mg) of bromo per day, and whenever things started feeling weird, i upped my dose to one and a half tabs per day until things subsided, and then dropped back to the original dose. Mind you...i learned the hard way NOT to eat bromo on an empty stomach, OR....dont take the whole days dose of bromo in one sitting on an empty stomach LOL...for some reason it kept making me sick in the stomach and i hadda do a donovan bailey to the bathroom. Basically the bromo kept the prolactin gyno at bay, and it worked great.
As for the Effect of stacking tren and deca together, i got INSANE strength gains, and it made me feel like a god. I found that the deca covered the physical effect on the body from the tren due to bloat, but you will be surprised at the end when the bloat diminishes. I found that at the end of the cycle, i got the same effect of deca and tren (when run alone) combined, with a super-enhance of strength.
Mind you, i was stacking it with a gram of test, BUT, my dick was playing russian roulette...basically this was the only stack that actually affected my libido as is....and usually when im on a cycle, my sex drive is through the roof and ill nail a tree if it had a hole at the right height. The deca/tren dick was not as bad as some people get off deca alone.
The last and not the least.....PCT! Man...this is probably the most rediculous stack to work on a PCT with....I found that i had to prolong my clomid and nolva for another 4 weeks, and you gotta really keep your calories up there as well as your protein intake. As most people say that tren and deca are the worst for supression...well times it by TWO and you will know how it is...IMO, if you have enough experience with deca and tren, you can definitely pull it off with a great recovery. I basically just used clomid and nolva (300-100-50 clomid method and the 40-20 nolva method) along with a rediculous ammount of food, and it worked well.

Hope this helps :smiliecol

--GP