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      Ever seen crystals in sustanton 250? The gear is from QGL and Im guessing solvent ratio is wrong. I tried heating it up but to no avail. Not to sure what I should do at this point. Could I add more sterile benzyl alcohol?

      Also, instead of doing 500mg/week I would like to do 250 mg/3days. Is that a better approach as far as blood levels go?

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      Default Re: Crystals in the Sustanton250

      sust should be shot e3d to get the most out of the short esters.
      what method did u use to heat it?
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      Default Re: Crystals in the Sustanton250

      List the methods you used to heat it. The BA and BB was mixed up by the company he bought them from, which caused this to happen. It also happened to his Test Enan. Everything is good, but this caused his formula to be wrong. Feel free to e-mail him about this. Or P.M. me for more details on what you should do. You can add a little BA to it, try heating it again with the BA you have added. Should stay in solution then. I always heat with a hair dryer, or on top of my toaster oven.
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      you have a p.m.
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      Default Re: Crystals in the Sustanton250

      SOLVENT RATIOS ARENT RIGHT...ADD MORE BA OR HEAT UNDER HOT WATER, THAT SHOULD DO IT.

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      if you add anything...add BB. try heating in the oven at 250 for 30min with a vent pin....and sus should be shot no less than EOD IMHO

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      I used hot water bath and hair dryer. Im afraid to heat in the oven due to structural damage of the sterol group. I dont know the interactions of the product at that temp. espcially with such solvents.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Prion
      I used hot water bath and hair dryer. Im afraid to heat in the oven due to structural damage of the sterol group. I dont know the interactions of the product at that temp. espcially with such solvents.
      with sus one of the esters is crashing, not all of them. to put it back into solution, it must be heated to the melting point of the hormone. and you have no way to know. so pick the highest one and heat to that temp. 250f WILL NOT HURT THE HORMONE.

      try heat, if that doesn't hold add some BB...not BA

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      Quote Originally Posted by chaos
      with sus one of the esters is crashing, not all of them. to put it back into solution, it must be heated to the melting point of the hormone. and you have no way to know. so pick the highest one and heat to that temp. 250f WILL NOT HURT THE HORMONE.

      try heat, if that doesn't hold add some BB...not BA
      Perfect, thats info I needed. I was just to lazy to look it up. I might give it a shot. I would rather trade it though. Business ethics come to mind immediatly. lol.

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      i normally don't recomend the microwave....not because it's not safe, or doesn't work, but because people usually freak out. but in another simular thread someone else recomended it so here it goes. screw the melting point and all that. put it in the micro on high for 30 sec, add a little BB and you will be good to go

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      i use the microwave all the time, i have some prop that crashes all the time, if there are lil flakes the hair dryer will work fine but when the glass get coated with crystals and the are chunks i nuke it, for 30 seconds at a time then take it out shake it for a min or 2 then back in until they are all gone.
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      Chaos has got you covered but look at this graph and this will tell ya why to inject sust ED or EOD. When ever shooting a multi estered blend always base how you are going to shoot it by the shortest ester in the bunch. Sust's shortest ester is prop. We all know prop needs to be shot ED or EOD to minimize sides and keep levels stable.

      If you dont want to do ED injections at least do EOD.
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      Don't get me started on that "graph" again. It is total BS. To get a perfectly "smooth" accumilation curve, you would have to have the raw hormone administered via drip intraveinously. I have read the whole "article" in which that "graph" came from. The article also stated that 1cc of sustenon injected on day 1 of a cycle would bring test levels in the blood to 190mg. First of all, it would be impossible to get 190mg of 250mg on day 1. Second, test levels are measured in units mass per volume blood, not just mass. I would really like to see the "mathematics" they used to derive all their values.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HungarianBeast
      Don't get me started on that "graph" again. It is total BS. To get a perfectly "smooth" accumilation curve, you would have to have the raw hormone administered via drip intraveinously. I have read the whole "article" in which that "graph" came from. The article also stated that 1cc of sustenon injected on day 1 of a cycle would bring test levels in the blood to 190mg. First of all, it would be impossible to get 190mg of 250mg on day 1. Second, test levels are measured in units mass per volume blood, not just mass. I would really like to see the "mathematics" they used to derive all their values.
      I can't debate with you on the graph but we can debate on the ED or EOD shots all day!

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      I can't debate with you on the graph but we can debate on the ED or EOD shots all day!
      You can't debate the graph, so how are you going to debate ed or eod? the graph "represents" exactly that.

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