tren e vs tren a

[Fit2bLarge]

TweetI keep reading post saying you dont need as much tren e as you do tren a. I dont understand this.

lets first talk ester weight. if the enan ester weights more than acetate, that means you get less med per mg right?

100mg tren e, you get roughly 72mg of trenbolone
100mg tren a, you get roughly 87mg of trenbolone

so if you're doing 400mg per week of tren e, you're only really dosing 288mg per week. 41mg per day. not much IMO.

now 700mg per week tren a, 100mg ed, thats 609mg of trenbolone, 87mg per day.

unless im missing something completely obvious, I dont get why it is recommended to do less tren e than tren a. someone please enlighten me!

[mick-G]

TweetTheoretically it makes sence, but i seriously doubt whether it will have a significant impact on visiable results.

[Fit2bLarge]

Tweetdoubt the difference in dosage will have a significant difference? i think it will. if you shot 288mg of test enan, and 609 of test prop, you dont think you'd see a difference? i know they're different compounds, but the dosage/ester idea is the same. i could be wrong tho.

Theoretically it makes sence, but i seriously doubt whether it will have a significant impact on visiable results.

[Stout1]

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doubt the difference in dosage will have a significant difference? i think it will. if you shot 288mg of test enan, and 609 of test prop, you dont think you'd see a difference? i know they're different compounds, but the dosage/ester idea is the same. i could be wrong tho.

The idea is the same. Its still the same ester but from what I read it works different than what it would logically sound. Don't know why. But before AM went down they had an awesome thread going over this. Give them some time to read and reply to it.

I know that they all agree in another thread that longer esters are better for bulking.......

[Fit2bLarge]

TweetThanks S1. I think I came up with a stumper here..lol. I guess I'm also splitting hairs. I'll experiment myself and see.

[Stout1]

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Thanks S1. I think I came up with a stumper here..lol. I guess I'm also splitting hairs. I'll experiment myself and see.

Yeah I know from the threads I read at AM before we lost all the info people that ran 75mg/ED of Tren A would of gotten the same results of off 300-400mg wk of Tren E. No one could figure it out or make sense of it.

It is a brand new chemical. I remember seeing somewhere that when someone sent it into that SCRS place that tests gear they said there was no standard to test for TREN E as it was new. So they had to do something I forgot so for some reason or another it is more potent........

Try 400mg/wk of Tren E and adjust from there. I believe you said you ran 75mg/ED of Tren A??

[Fit2bLarge]

Tweetyeah, 75mg ed

[gymphreak]

TweetIll start off with this....i agree with how the ester weights affect the true dosing of the steroid, and what your logic is trying to tell you is correct.

As for why people reccommend less for long ester tren, than for short ester tren is because of this....you start off with a really high dose of tren Enan, and the sides kick you in the nuts...its gonna take a while for the sides to subside....Whereas tren ace, your sides will go away much much faster. This is why most people say that.

IMO, tren enan is not a good steroid for the first time tren user. The reason being, is that of the sides. If a noob gets too cocky with the long ester tren, the sides might take over his love for the tren. whereas short ester tren, if the sides are too much, they can drop it, and the sides subside within a week.

IMO, either one is great for bulkers/cutters, but it depends on variables.....such as your love for darts, the length of your cycle and experience.


Hope this explains your question

[gymphreak]

TweetAs for seeing a difference in gains, its all pretty much in your head....tren ace, is more raw hormone per gram than tren enan...so most people think you get more gains from tren ace, but in all reality, you are getting the same gains whether you use either, its just the time span of release....

[Fit2bLarge]

Tweetso if sides where no object, there would be no reason to go less. ive done plenty of tren a cycles and know the sides all too well.

so again, if im taking 100mg tren a ed (or 82mg actual trenbolone ed), and drop to 400mg of tren e a week (288mg actual trenbolone ew), my total trenbolone dosage will drop drastically.

Ill start off with this....i agree with how the ester weights affect the true dosing of the steroid, and what your logic is trying to tell you is correct.

As for why people reccommend less for long ester tren, than for short ester tren is because of this....you start off with a really high dose of tren Enan, and the sides kick you in the nuts...its gonna take a while for the sides to subside....Whereas tren ace, your sides will go away much much faster. This is why most people say that.

IMO, tren enan is not a good steroid for the first time tren user. The reason being, is that of the sides. If a noob gets too cocky with the long ester tren, the sides might take over his love for the tren. whereas short ester tren, if the sides are too much, they can drop it, and the sides subside within a week.

IMO, either one is great for bulkers/cutters, but it depends on variables.....such as your love for darts, the length of your cycle and experience.


Hope this explains your question

[gymphreak]

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so if sides where no object, there would be no reason to go less. ive done plenty of tren a cycles and know the sides all too well. Yup

so again, if im taking 100mg tren a ed (or 82mg actual trenbolone ed), and drop to 400mg of tren e a week (288mg actual trenbolone ew), my total trenbolone dosage will drop drastically. yup, since the ester will take up weight...thus you will be taking less actual tren with enanthate.

answer is in the quote

[mick-G]

TweetOnly thing you can do is try them both and see if they do. Im trying to use only longs esters now.

[prolangtum]

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Only thing you can do is try them both and see if they do. Im trying to use only longs esters now.

Ive been shooting prop for about 5 weeks now, and Im about to do the same. Im tired of trying to inject where scar tissue aint.

[Fit2bLarge]

Tweetright! so this takes it back to the original questionl. if you're gettin less trenbolone because of the enanthate ester weight, why is it recommended to do less than the acetate ester?

answer is in the quote

[Testify]

TweetCould it be because of the time release of the ester? You have less hormone per week, but its going to remain active for much longer. Add to this the compounding effect of 2xweek inject for a hormone with a half-life of 12 days(?). This could make up for the perceived difference.

Isn't there a site where you can plug-in dosage numbers and see the pattern of hormone fluxuation in the blood? It would be interesting to compare the two.