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      WHAT IS PLASMA EXPENDER:

      Plasma Expanders
      Editors Note: Because of a certain coach (or more specifically a precontest drug array specialist) whose elite clientele finished in the top three places in all of the biggest pro shows, other bodybuilders cried foul play citing that these “supervised athletes” had an unfair advantage. The supervising coach responsible for pioneering the use of plasma expanders and taking the sport to another level turned out clients who weighed roughly the same as they did the previous year, However, they all appeared roughly 20lbs larger in their newly EXPANDED hyper saturated muscularture. With Ben Johnson-like speed, plasma infusion has rapidly trickeled from the pro ranks down to national qualifying level V contests. The immediate future of winning a national or pro level contest now appears to be contingent on the athlete’s guidance and/or medical knowledge of the latest chemical array of pharmacologics-PLASMA EXPANDERS!

      Blood-Volume Expanders
      John E. Clark, Pharm.D., FASHP

      Because of the potential complications associated with diuretic use in athletes, major bodybuilding sponsors have begun drug-testing athletes for use of these agents. The biggest problem for athletes using diuretics is that they run the risk of dehydrating. Dehydration can cause faintness, dizziness, headaches, nausea, loss of coordination and balance, cramps, and in some cases, kidney and heart failure. You may recall several professional bodybuilders having to be carried off the stage due to severe and debilitating muscle cramps, and pain. I won’t mention any names, but you know who they are.

      Now that diuretics have become banned substances, bodybuilders have sought to find alternative methods to display the lean, hard, and dry appearance often seen with diuretic use. One approach that has been used is the administration of blood-volume or plasma volume expander solutions. To explain how these products work, let me first explain how body water is normally distributed throughout the body.

      Normally total body water (TBW) in males represents approximately 60% of body weight (see Figure 1). This percentage varies according to the relative amount of fat present, since fat cells contain small amounts of water. In females TBW approximates 50% of body weight. Thus, in a 75 kg male TBW equals 45 liters. This fluid is distributed into two compartments. Two-thirds (30 liters) is intracellular fluid (ICF). The extracellular fluid (ECF) is further subdivided with approximately 75% (11.25 liters) in the interstitial space and 25% (3.75 liters) in the plasmA. The plasma and intracellular fluid make up the intravascular space.

      Blood-volume expanders are large molecular weight solutions, that once introduced into the body, they have the tendency to cause the osmotic movement of or "pull" water from the extracellular fluid compartment into circulation (i.e., into plasma and intracellular space). Since the water in the skin and muscle is extracellular water, some bodybuilders think that the administration of a blood-volume expander prior to a contest leads to a much more "dry", hard, and full appearance. Whether or not this is truly the case is very debatable and would require further study.

      Blood-volume expanders have been used for more than 70 years in a variety of medical conditions to expand the intravascular volume. Although these products have been shown to be very effective in clinical practice in resuscitating the body with fluid, depending of the type used, their effect may be variable.
      Medical Use of Blood-Volume Expanders

      Hemorrhagic shock

      Cardiopulmonary bypass

      Septic shock

      Obstetrics

      Thermal injury

      Vascular surgery

      Organ transplantation

      Liver disease


      In general, there are two categories of intravenous products available for blood-volume expansion: crystalloids and colloids. A crystalloid is a substance in solution that can pass through a semipermeable membrane. Crystalloids are usually sugar or salt solutions (e.g., dextrose or saline) that contain some combination of electrolytes (e.g., sodium, chloride, potassium) and/or trace elements. Two of the most popular are normal saline and lactated Ringer's solutions.
      Types of Crystalloid Solutions

      Dextrose 5% in Water Injection
      0.9% Sodium Chloride Injection
      Normosol-R® Injection
      Plasma-Lyte® Injection
      Lactated Ringer's Injection
      3% Sodium Chloride Injection
      7.5% Sodium Chloride Injection


      In general, crystalloids are inexpensive, easy to obtain and safe for fluid resuscitation in clinical practice. They work quickly and excess fluids can be easily eliminated through diuresis.

      However, since they contain such small particle size (solutes), crystalloids rapidly leak out of the vasculature into the surrounding tissues and therefore, their effects do not last very long. Also large volumes are required to achieve the desired effect and this may cause edema in certain people. Crystalloids are usually not used by bodybuilders for "drying out" nor should they.

      Crystalloids: Advantages and Disadvantages

      Advantages

      Inexpensive
      Readily available
      Low side effects
      Rapid effect and removal
      Disadvantages

      Short half-life
      Rapid distribution beyond plasma
      Large amounts needed
      May cause edema, metabolic alkalosis



      A colloid is a substance in solution that cannot pass through a semipermeable membrane (e.g., veins). This category includes whole blood, plasma, packed red cells and the different types of prepared colloid solutions, both natural and synthetic. Albumin is an example of a natural colloid since its solutions contain a protein derived from human plasmA. Synthetic colloid solutions are made from sugar or starch molecules. Due to their large molecular size, they are capable of mimicking some of the properties of naturally occurring plasma proteins such as albumin.
      Natural Colloid

      Albumin
      Synthetic Colloids

      Hetastarch
      Dextran 40
      Dextran 70
      Dextran 75


      Albumin and the synthetic colloids seem to be the solutions most often used by bodybuilders for "drying out".

      While they have their advantages and disadvantages (see Table 5), they also differ in the colloid oncotic pressure (COP) they exert. Oncotic pressure is something that's created from the forces of water to move across the cell membrane or from one compartment to another. This may be significant to bodybuilders because the amount of oncotic pressure a solution exerts determines, in a sense, the relative strength of these products. As shown in Table 6, hetastarch exerts a smaller COP than Dextran and albumin. Also, based on the half-life (T ½) (i.e., the time at which 50% of the solution is out of the body), hetastarch and albumin may stay in the body longer than Dextran. These factors, along with several others should be considered by bodybuilders prior to using these products. For example, if albumin is used it may exert a stronger oncotic effect than the other blood-volume expanders; consequently, this may seem attractive to some bodybuilders who may be retaining "excess" extracellular water prior to a contest. However, there are some precautions that should be taken when using albumin. Although the side effect profile is low, rapid infusion of albumin (> 10 mL/min) may produce a decrease in blood pressure (hypotension). Additionally, too rapid infusion could result in a too rapid expansion in plasma volume and this could result in "spillage" of fluid into other cavities (vascular overload), shortness of breath (dyspnea), and fluid in the lungs (pulmonary edema). Therefore, during plasma solution administration, blood pressure should be monitored and the infusion process should be slowed or discontinued if severe hypotension occurs. Because albumin has the tendency to also cause a quick and dangerous rise in blood pressure (hypertension) due to an increase in plasma volume, blood pressure should continue to be monitored during the solution administration process.

      Colloids: Advantages and Disadvantages


      Advantages
      Disadvantages

      Synthetic
      Extended effect
      May last too long


      Available in bags for rapid infusion
      Increased side effects


      Not plasma-derived
      May cause coagulopathy


      Moderately priced
      Maximum administration limit

      Natural (albumin)
      "Gold standard"
      More expensive


      Natural
      Availability


      Low side effects
      Plasma-derived (safety?)


      If hetastarch is used, the plasma volume only expands slightly in excess of the volume infused. The effects are seen very quickly. For example, one hour after infusing a 500-mL bag of hetastarch, plasma volume may expand to 1000 mL or less. To avoid vascular overload, the total amount and rate of infusion of hetastarch should not exceed 1500 mL/day and 20 mL/kg. of bodyweight. Although the "pulling" effects may be seen for several days, it is rapidly eliminated initially with over 40% eliminated from the body in the first 24 hours. However, because of how its large molecules are broken down in the body, the remainder of hetastarch may not be all eliminated for more than two weeks.

      Hetastarch has the tendency to also cause vomiting, mild temperature elevation, chills, itching, and mild flu-like symptoms. These symptoms may be seen during administration and may be early signs of allergic reactions. If these occur, the hetastarch should be discontinued and if necessary antihistamines, such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl®) should be given.

      The Dextrans are large branched chain sugar molecules that increase the plasma volume onefold to twofold over the volume used. To avoid fluid overload, administration of these solutions should not exceed 20 mL/kg/day. The Dextrans produce high oncotic pressure, which make them very effective in pulling fluid into the intravascular space. However, they are rapidly eliminated from the body with 50% of the low molecular weight dextrans being eliminated in 24 hours. They also have the tendency to cause allergic reactions (e.g., wheezing, tightness of the chest, shortness of breath, mild drop in blood pressure) and some time rare, severe and fatal anaphylactoid reactions (e.g., marked drop in blood pressure, cardiac and respiratory arrest). Bodybuilders attempting to use the Dextrans for "drying out" should be aware that these reactions occur early in the infusion period. While antihistamines may be effective in relieving the allergic reactions, the anaphylactoid reactions are considered emergencies and should be treated as such.

      With the potential for the aforementioned side effects to occur, it is of great importance to always be monitored by a medical professional during the infusion process, especially if albumen or high oncotic inducing dextrans are administered.

      It appears that bodybuilders have begun to experiment with blood-volume expanders in search of alternative methods to diuretics for "drying out." There are multiple colloidal solutions that can be used for blood-volume expansion. Each has their advantages and disadvantages and they differ in their individual properties.

      Comparison of Blood-Volume Expanders

      Expander
      T ½
      COP
      (Colloid Oncotic Pressure)

      Crystalloid
      15 min
      0

      Hetastarch (Hespan®)
      15 hrs
      30 mmHg

      Dextran 40
      1 hr
      60 mmHg

      Dextran 70
      1 hr
      60 mmHg

      Albumin 5%
      16 hrs
      20 mmHg

      Albumin 25%
      16 hrs
      100 mmHg


      The ideal colloid solution does not exist, but if it did, the desirable properties would be a solution that produces a sustained increase in plasma volume without posing a risk for developing side effects, such as edema, anaphylaxis, or infection. It would have the ability to be removed very quickly through diuresis. In addition, the solution would not interfere with the coagulation system or platelets.

      Properties of an Ideal Blood-Volume Expander

      Produces sufficient oncotic pressure
      Intravascular dwelling time sufficient to achieve volume goals
      Ability to remove (excess) volume through diuresis
      Lack of interference with cellular or capillary functioning
      Lack of interference with coagulation system or platelets
      Free of antigenic or allergic properties and pose no infectious risk


      While the use of blood-volume expanders in bodybuilding remains a controversial and heated topic of discussion, it is uncertain what course of direction the debate and the use of these products will take. These solutions certainly add an interesting twist in the evolution of the pharmacology involved in the bodybuilding. What was once a joke: “That guy probably hooks himself up to a IV at night,” is now reality.

      One related note of importance is that most athletes feel that the addition of a diuretic is an integral point of the overall precontest fine tuning process. Consequently, in conjunction with plasma expanders, mannitol appears to be the preferred substance used to fine-tune the drying out process prior to competition. However, because it increases the risk of hypovolemia (a rapid drop in blood pressure), using mannitol in conjunction with blood volume expanders increases the potential for cardiovascular disaster.

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      Thanks Mike!

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      crazy shit, i no likey likey

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      no Spank-you to that!!!! That's crazy, bro. This just further proves the point that bodybuilding, if not careful, is moving in the wrong direction. Thanks for the post bro. That was very informative...Shiner
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      That is the craziest stuff I have ever heard. I think Society is degenerating in a slow spiral and its getting faster the closer to the bottom we get.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shiner22nd
      no Spank-you to that!!!! That's crazy, bro. This just further proves the point that bodybuilding, if not careful, is moving in the wrong direction. Thanks for the post bro. That was very informative...Shiner
      Welcome bro and sorry for not posting it yesterday, left work and i don't have a computer at my house .....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Still2Fat
      That is the craziest stuff I have ever heard. I think Society is degenerating in a slow spiral and its getting faster the closer to the bottom we get.
      yes and some other crazier shit is blood doppin ..i know a pro who does both methods....its when u draw blood and then shake it till get's white and then re-inject it in the blood ...bu u have to have a doct and ohter compounds wt it to keep u stable, so u don't die, coma, and ect....

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      f-ing crazy . . .

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      yup

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      Good grief....blood doping might be one of the stupidest things a person could do, merely for a competion! Just the sound of that explanation makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe the IFBB will do something positive and turn all of this around someday....Shiner
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