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      OK, I have to start a new thread because I am finding this really interesting. Crank posted some documentation on prolactin in another thread. I want to continue this topic.

      Crank and everyone else please post your research findings on "progesterone" gyno and/or prolactin here. (don't forget to cite the source of info)


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      https://www.answers.com/topic/gynecomastia

      Gynecomastia (gynaecomastia BE) is the development of abnormal breast tissue on men, small or large, and normally on both sides. The term comes from the Greek gyne meaning "woman" and mastos meaning "breast". The condition is common in adolescent boys, though in 90% of such cases the symptoms disappear in a matter of months to a few years at most; it may also occur in males of advancing years. It is generally a result of an imbalance in hormones, though there are many different possible root causes. Gynecomastia is not simply a buildup of adipose tissue but includes the development of glandular tissue as well. It may take a softer form or include a form of lump-like gland, which should not be confused for cancer.

      Causes
      Among the various potential causes of gynecomastia are puberty, steroid abuse, obesity, tumors, chronic liver disease, side effects of various medications including those with hormonal effects, castration, aging, and genetic disorders such as Klinefelter Syndrome and Gilbert's syndrome. Marijuana use and animal hormones are also thought by some to be possible causes, though these are still debated.

      Medication that can cause gynecomastia includes cimetidine, omeprazole, spironolactone, finasteride and certain antipsychotics. Some act directly on the breast tissue, while other lead to increased secretion of prolactin from the pituitary by blocking the actions of dopamine (prolactin-inhibiting factor/PIF) on the lactotrope cell groups in that organ. Although stopping these medications can lead to regression of the gynecomastia, surgery is sometimes necessary to eliminate the condition.

      Prognosis
      Gynecomastia is not physically harmful, though it can occasionally indicate more dangerous underlying conditions. Its chief destructive effects lie more subtly in social and psychological results, including depression, withdrawal, peer ridicule, and complicated or obstructed relationships. Weight loss may benefit an obesity-related form known as pseudogynecomastia, and endocrinological attention may help during the first approximately 2-3 years. After that window, however, the breast tissue tends to remain, leaving surgery (through either liposuction techniques, glandular excision, or both) the only known physical remedy, ideally by an experienced plastic surgeon.

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      Default Re: "progesterone" gyno...

      How do prolactin and the family of anabolics (including deca, anadrol, etc...) relate??

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      Some people are extremely prolatin gyno sensitive. Myself included. I've run tren along with test prop before and had some serious issues with lactation. My nipples were actually leaking a clear to semi-clear fluid when I would squeeze them. Freaked me the hell out. I took the advice of Pheedno and started to run B-6 at 600mg per day divided in three 200mg doses.

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      What is it about these particular compounds that cause the increase in prolactin??

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      Default Re: "progesterone" gyno...

      I had a blood test done and my prolactin levels were really high, and I had just finished a cycle of tren 75mg ed and test suspension 50mg ed

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      Im new to the AS world. Wouldn't taking all the neccessary pre cation drugs counter the effect making it not likly to happen?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Monster Muscle
      Im new to the AS world. Wouldn't taking all the neccessary pre cation drugs counter the effect making it not likly to happen?
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      Default Re: "progesterone" gyno...

      Quote Originally Posted by Crankin'steiN
      Well, you could copy and paste the info I put in that other thread, which Pheedno originally posted about the topic... That would be useful in this thread....

      From what I know, there is 2 types of Gyno that can be caused by the usage of steroids... One is the most common form which is caused by aromatization and excess estrogen. Many of the common steroids can cause aromatization, but the most common one to do it is Testosterone... D-bol, and anadrol also do it, along with some others... There is also some steroids that do not aromatize, namely winny and tren and possibly a couple others.

      The other form of gyno which usually includes lactation (yes like a pregnant woman). Is induced by prolactin..... The most common steroids known to cause this type of gyno are deca and tren. I believe this type of gyno to be fairly rare and definitely not as common as some would have you think. Now this is with the exception of when the two compounds are combined. When the two are combined, I believe the chances of getting prolactin induced gyno become much hugher and the user must be prepared! I have tested this theory on myself to see if it held true (yes I'm an idiot, but anything for the community....). About a year or two ago I had some cycles under my belt that included either tren or deca, but never both. After doing some research and finding out that using both together was not advised, I decided to test the theory.... Well, let me tell you.... It wasn't made up! lol Prolactin induced gyno came on pretty fast and I was running my regular nolva with my cycle like I always did, so I know it wasn't regular gyno... I had my bromo ready and I added it pretty quick to back down the gyno that was coming on.... At that point I dropped the tren out of the mix and continued the bromo for a while until things were all clear....

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      HAs there ever been any cases where no counter drug worked? So no matter what the person did they got gyno regardless, the drug had no effect on them? Ever happened?
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