Any Advice Would Be Appreciated!!

[justaguy83]

TweetHey guys im starting my first cycle of QV Deca 300 and D bol ill be taking 300mgs a week and 2 tabs a day (thai) just wandering if theres something i should know or i realize its stupid to ask for gain estimates but i will any way well anyway i find this site full of info and everyone really supports one another so thanks alot for listening!

[MR.MUSCLE]

TweetHey bro how many mg's are the tabs?

[edvedr]

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Hey guys im starting my first cycle of QV Deca 300 and D bol ill be taking 300mgs a week and 2 tabs a day (thai) just wandering if theres something i should know or i realize its stupid to ask for gain estimates but i will any way well anyway i find this site full of info and everyone really supports one another so thanks alot for listening!

hey bro, welcome to the board! i'm sorry to tell ya but thats not gonna be a good cycle. what is your stats...experience. what are you planning for pct? i'm gettin the feeling you really need to do some more research before you get started! give us some more info about yourself and we can help you better.

[mick-G]

TweetDbol is thai, lol! I hope you are not taking 300mg of dbol ew, and then two thai, as they are the same chemical, metandienone. Tell us the mgs of the tabs you are taking.

[edvedr]

Tweeti think he is saying 300mgs a week of deca, and 2 tabs of dbol ed

[justaguy83]

Tweethey thanks for getting back guys ...yeah i was saying id be taking 2 tabs a day ...to be honest i wont get them until monday but have the deca anyway ive been training for 3 yrs and 2 seriously im 31 yrs-6'2 200pds and about doing my research i have but u all must know alot of it is conflicting i know ppl say to run deca with test but my guy assures me the deca dbol is a winner and from him it means alot he competes and id like to one day anyway i just found this site and all this infos got my head spinning again thanks any help is seriously appreciated

[shyster]

Tweeta friend of mine ran deca 300 for 10 weeks and had great gains with no shut down. Some people get "impotent" or "limp dick" for a duration of the cycle and after the cycle for a while with only deca. Thats why most people run test with it. Plus it's more juice in your body so that usually renders better gaing if you don't go overboard with it. Everyone is different so take what everyone advises you to do with a grain of salt.

[edvedr]

Tweetwell what does he mean by its a winner? yeah you will gain but you don't want deca dick. not sayin anything bad about your bud but don't trust him soley cause he competes, i know plenty of guys who compete and just do what they are told, but they know nothing by themselves

[Shiner22nd]

TweetI think if you're going to do anything, then def. take Edvedr's advice of doing more research. If you decide to do something, then you might want to consider the following....if you want:

Test 250 mg 10 wk.
Deca 300 mg 10 wk.
OR
Test 250 mg 10 wk.
Dbol 20-25mg/day 4 wk. (wk 1-4)

then PCT......this is a fairly low/moderate first cycle. But whatever you do, be careful...Shiner

[prolangtum]

TweetA quick word of advice, never take cycle advice from a dealer. They always twist it to go with whatever they have available.

[angryoldman]

TweetJusta- Is this your first cycle ever?
It sounds like it might be. My honest advice would be skip the deca, skip the dbol, find some testosterone cyp or sustanon 250, and run that alone at about 600mg to 800mg a week. No need for dbol or deca first cycle.

[JsJs24]

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Justa- Is this your first cycle ever?
It sounds like it might be. My honest advice would be skip the deca, skip the dbol, find some testosterone cyp or sustanon 250, and run that alone at about 600mg to 800mg a week. No need for dbol or deca first cycle.

600-800 is too much for first. 500 is plenty.

[pigmeat]

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600-800 is too much for first. 500 is plenty.

And he could do just fine off of 400mg.....500mg max!!

[HungarianBeast]

Tweet2 tabs of dbol every day...If they are 5mg tabs, you will want a bit more. About 30-35mg every day.

[angryoldman]

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And he could do just fine off of 400mg.....500mg max!!

I'm gonna quote the late great Dan Duchaine one more time:
Next, you should carefully orchestrate your steroid plan of attack. I say this because your first steroid experience will be your most productive. This incredible burst of anabolism will happen once and once only. Keeping this in mind, I recommend that you use the MOST EFFECTIVE AND POTENT of all steroids for your first time: injectable testosterone.

Trust me on this one. IGNORE advice from every other expert. Do not consider synthetics, including pills like Dianabol and Anadrol 50. These choices may be appropriate at a later date, but they are not potent enough for that crucial first time. Creams, patches, analogs, precursors, and boosters are all VIRTUALLY INEFFECTIVE AT ANY DOSE OR PRICE. A three cc syringe full of oily testosterone and a 21 to 23 gauge needle are required to get the most out of your first testosterone experience.

Some scientists who obviously had too much time on their hands have developed fancy alternatives to good old-fashioned testosterone. The most popular drug of this kind is a blend of various species of testosterone called Sustanon 250. Sustanon 250 is designed for crybabies who are too delicate to inject testosterone once a week. Sustanon 250 is overpriced, only comes in one cc doses, and can cause scar tissue at the injection site. Read this now, believe me later: Sustanon 250 is NO BETTER than any other kind of testosterone, and it’s much more expensive. Two pre-loads (or ampoules) cost between $30 and $40 on the US black market. An equivalent amount of veterinary grade testosterone costs less than $10. Foreign veterinary drugs are the best buys. Don’t be surprised if the label has a picture of farm animals on it, or some unintelligible Spanish words. These drugs are JUST AS CLEAN AND POTENT as their American counterparts. But, hey, it’s your cash.

There are many varieties of testosterone. Testosterone suspension is just testosterone powder in water. It is very painful to inject and causes a lot of scar tissue. Testosterone propionate also causes too much pain and scarring to be used repeatedly. Testosterone enanthate and testosterone cypionate your best bets. They come in 200 mg/cc doses, and are relatively cheap.


How much should a steroid user take of testosterone each week?

How much should you inject each week? Nothing less than 600 mg of testosterone a week will do the job. Remember, the first few testosterone injections of your life will be your most productive ones. I hate to say this, but those great stories of how so-and-so gained 50 pounds of muscle in just a few weeks are often distorted. These dramatic weight gains are ONE SHOT DEALS. Your FIRST steroid encounter is, perhaps, the ONLY ONE that will give you significant gains. DON’T fart those gains away with chicken-shit dosages or with some girlie, weak-assed steroid. If you are a male, and you want to use testosterone to get big and strong, then jam 600 to 1000 mg of either testosterone enanthate or cypionate once a week. The USH II will give you the step-by-steps on needles, but the short version is that you want a three cc syringe, with a needle at least one inch long, either 22 or 23 gauge. Inject all the testosterone that you are going to use for the week at the same time. If you using 600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cypionate, this is the full three cc oil.