Tweetthat would be a good first cycle...dbol 35mgs a day weeks 1-4.....sust 500mgs a week weeks 1-12....then clomid and nolva for pct......if u can a straight ester test instead go with that over the sust
Tweetwhat is a good first cycle... I have access to sustanon so is this something worth taking for a first cycle.... I also can get dbol.... im 21, 5'11", 190, 12% BF, want to get over 200, really want to hit about 210-215
Tweetthat would be a good first cycle...dbol 35mgs a day weeks 1-4.....sust 500mgs a week weeks 1-12....then clomid and nolva for pct......if u can a straight ester test instead go with that over the sust
TweetId use long ester cypionate or enathate 400-500mg/wk for 10-12wks only, followed by pct of clomid 300-100-50 for 21 days or nolva.
Tweetdefinatly dbols at 30-35 mg;s a day for 4 weeks..sustanon is widely abused for a first time cycle in my opinion...single acting test esters r a much better choice just to stabilize blood levels...but if sustanons all u can get...u will still like the results....throw some deca or eq in there with the right diet and training and 20 pounds is more than likely
Tweetif he eats correctly i bet he will get his 20lbs without deca or eq......first cycle he will grow like a weed....so i would save adding an extra compound till later down the road...jmo
TweetI agree with ed, first cycle..just go with some Test and the dbol. You will easily get 20 lbs. if you eat right!! Good luck bro!!
Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated..
TweetI agree sust and dbol would be a fine first cycle 20lbs is a pretty safe bet to achieve with that cycle if diet and training is on but a single long ester such as Enan or CYp would be better just remember sust need to be shot at least E3D
Tweeti would go 400-500mg a week of enth or cyp for 10-12 weeks, no d-bol, eq, or deca. its his first cycle and he should stick to test. i see no prblem gaining 20 pounds on test. but it wont all be muscle and you wont keep it all even with the best pct. if sust is all u can get shoot it 2 times per week, 250mg on monday and 250 on thursday.
followed by a good pct with nolva or clomid. it doesnt matter what u use if your diet, training, and rest are not tuned in.
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TweetIf he eats correctly, he can get to 210 without gear as well. Then he could do a sust cycle and get to 225 or so...Originally Posted by edvedr
TweetWhy??? Because of the short esters in sust in needs to be shot at least every third dayOriginally Posted by badasz32
Tweetabout 5 months ago i got my eating and lifting in order, and i went from 175 to 190, but for the last month or two i havn't been gaining anything.... thats why i want to hit a cycle now.... so you don't have to take clomid or nolva til after week 12 right???Originally Posted by HungarianBeast
Tweetstart nolva and clomid at week 14.....make sure u have it before hand in case of gyno
Tweet400 mg a week of test e, or cyp. 1 shot a week. Easy, simple, and proven!
No dbol, or anything else needed. Save your money, and add something next time.
Tweeti ment that he has to shoot it atleast 2 times per week, every 3rd day would work better and eod would be ideal but i dont think shooting eod for a first cycle is a good idea, too many sticks might turn him off to gear. He wouldnt want to waste the short esters like the prop by shooting once a week.
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Tweetwt enan/cypi, u can take 1 shoot and keep ur blood level stable but wt sus ever3 days u need to take a shot......
i agree what the crew said as well