NU-B First cycle help

[CaliYoked]

TweetFirst off I'd like to say hola to everybody, I was a member back about a year and half ago and forgot my user info, but I'm back and ready to finally do my first cycle. My stats as of now are 6'3" 198lbs and about 16%bf, at my heviast all natural I was 219 about 2 months ago. After all my research and 2 1/2 years in the gym I'm thinking about a deca 400mg/week and test enth cycle 500mg/week. Is this look like a solid 1st cycle? Should I get back to around 215 before I start? I need a little help with the pct too. I was looking at some sites but is that a good way to go, or am I basically gonna get scammed? Thanks

[badasz32]

Tweetwell your old enough and your stats look good, i think the cycle u picked out will work well but i would personally do the deca at 300mg a week, use the least amount of gear u need to grow, because eventually u will have to up the doses.
run test for 12 weeks and the deca for 11 because of the dif. in 1/2 lives.
with pct
run clomid 300mg day 1/ 150mg days 2-15/ 50 mg 16-30
or nolva 60/40/20.

also good sources are hard to find but if u have any question on a source check put it in the secure forum.

[mick-G]

TweetI personally wouldn't use deca for a first cycle, as it is too harsh for a first cycle. Also you don't want the deca dick,lol. You should do very well with a test only cycle. That is what most first cyclers do. You can do either test cypionate or enathate at 400-500mg/wk for 10-12 wks and run ldex @ .25mg thruout. Follow pct with clomid 300-100-50 300mg for 3 days, 100mg for 8-10 days and 50mg for 10 days. I like the tabs Astra Zeneca brand they are 50mg, so it is easy to dose. Some ppl prefer nolva.

[Skarhead]

Tweetmost sites are scammers.. and by most im talking 95% of them

[mick-G]

TweetI don't know if you can say that now? I have a few very good sources that have websites. I guess you must do your homework before buying from someone you don't know, or isn't reffered.

[rado]

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most sites are scammers.. and by most im talking 95% of them

Oh erally? That's news to me

[rado]

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First off I'd like to say hola to everybody, I was a member back about a year and half ago and forgot my user info, but I'm back and ready to finally do my first cycle. My stats as of now are 6'3" 198lbs and about 16%bf, at my heviast all natural I was 219 about 2 months ago. After all my research and 2 1/2 years in the gym I'm thinking about a deca 400mg/week and test enth cycle 500mg/week. Is this look like a solid 1st cycle? Should I get back to around 215 before I start? I need a little help with the pct too. I was looking at some sites but is that a good way to go, or am I basically gonna get scammed? Thanks

I think you should NOT do deca and test together, you will end up with more fat and bloat than you may have now. Not saying it's not a good cycle, but I would leave that for another time.

How about a test or test/eq cycle for a 1st? I would just do a test cycle and take it from there.

If you need some sites or emails verified, PM or post it in the SECURE forum, not here and we'll check it out for you. Welcome to FG

[Jay_Abbays]

Tweet400 deca and 500 TE - is a great first cycle. (as well as second and third cycles)

Deca will give you quality long lasting muscle and test will volumize it.

That was my first cycle --- I gained about 20 lbs total while loosing 10 lbs of fat.


at 400D/500T - don't worry about getting shut down - the only thing you will notice is that you are horny as hell and it takes longer to cum (your GF will love it.)

The only time I know people get shut down on deca (deca dick) is when they either don't mix it with a proper amount of test or they have a bad quality gear.
(if you want to get some scientific results as well as lots of research on this subject - go to anabolicreview - there's a lot of guys who do research and serveys in this field)


Make sure your diet is in tact.
Do cardio (that would take care of any bloating and will keep your gains lean)
Run some nolva with it.


Good luck

[CaliYoked]

TweetI really appreciate all the help everyone. How much of my gains will I likely keep? And I mentioned above, I was at 219 and now I'm floating around 198, should I wait to get back to atleast 210 or so before I start? GirlPatriot- I just have one of those cheap pincher BF test things, I dont know how accurate it is, but I will get it checked by a doc before I start my cycle and after.

[JsJs24]

TweetI would not use the deca bro. It seems everyone has something different to say so I know you're confused, but I think test for 10 wks and 35mg dbol first 5 would be fine. Don't mess with the deca right now bro; you need hcg with that and bromo if it gives you gyno. See how you respond to the test first, and dbol is a good kickstart.

[Jay_Abbays]

TweetBromo, if deca gives you gyno????? ---- Who told you that????

Damn.... Bro, you don't lactate from deca.

HCG is not a requirement for deca. It's not a requirement for any gear. In fact, Test E will have the most effect on your nuts. So, if he decides to run HGC, it's not because of deca - it's mostly because of Test.

CaliYoked, my advice to you --- do some outside research.
A good start would be - go to the University of Maryland archives. They have been researching AAS for a long time. You can learn the science behind each steroid you want to use. --- Don't rely solely on what kids on BBoards say.

Good luck with your cycle.

[y2king]

TweetI am on my first cycle right now. It consists of Sustanon (250 per week), Deca (200-400 per week), and D-Bol for the first 5 weeks. The D-Bol is injectable as well and I am not doing enough of it at 25mg per week, but I just didn't order enough. Oh, well... I'll get it right next time. I have still gained 13lbs and am only in my 4th week out of 8. Good cycle... it seems. PCT consists of HCG, Nolva, and Clomid to finish it.

[CaliYoked]

TweetThanks guys, as soon as I can get my hands on some gear I think my cycle will consist of test enth. 500 mg/wk 12 wks, dbol 35 mg/wk 5 wks, with pct nolva and clomid. From what I've read I think my best bet for injections are monday and thursday, with a 25g 1in pin...does that look about right?

[pigmeat]

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--- Don't rely solely on what kids on BBoards say.

Good luck with your cycle.

You are the one giving bad advice my friend. Saying Deca wont shut you down? Pro hormones shut you down for christ sakes! Deca is one of the worst at it! What the hell does adding test have to do with you not bieng shut down. Adding test will shut you down even more. You may not get deca dick, but that is because you have introduced a synthetic test to your system.

Why do you think we do PcT? BECAUSE WE ARE SHUT DOWN, and want to get our nuts functioning again

[pigmeat]

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Bromo, if deca gives you gyno????? ---- Who told you that????

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It is common knowledge. Nandralone increases prolactin levels, which can cause gyno..Bromo or b-6 are your best bets to combat it.