Tweet1) Positves: You wont loose as much gains
2) Its possible, but the whole point of a bridge is to let your natural test production recover while minimizing loss..so its unlikely.
3) I'll check..
~Fluid
TweetIm 20 and lookin to bulk up pretty quick. Im almost done with my first cycle, and iv been reading about the dbol bridge. I have a few questions.
1. What is the negatives and positives to bridging with dbol? Will it help me to continue to gain?
2. Can this negatively effect my natural production?
3. Are there any good articles on this subject that you might recommend?
Tweet1) Positves: You wont loose as much gains
2) Its possible, but the whole point of a bridge is to let your natural test production recover while minimizing loss..so its unlikely.
3) I'll check..
~Fluid
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Tweetthis is a copy and paste
The dianabol bridge explained
I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.
Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.
Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
brand name Dianabol.
10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.
The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.
OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.
When are testosterone levels highest?
Answer: In the AM, thats when.
Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.
When are Insulin levels lowest?
Answer: In the AM thats when.
Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)
OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)
Lets take Subject X.
He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.
He pops 10mgs of dianabol.
Here is where things get interesting.
The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.
The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.
In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.
Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.
HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.
You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!
Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.
10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)
5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.
Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.
Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.
The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.
So, here's the scenario summed up:
Beginning: LOW LH and test.
Adding the 10mgs dball.
LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)
This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!
The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.
morebeefplease
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TweetOriginally posted by 2Powerful4u
Im 20 and lookin to bulk up pretty quick. Im almost done with my first cycle, and iv been reading about the dbol bridge. I have a few questions.
1. What is the negatives and positives to bridging with dbol? Will it help me to continue to gain?
2. Can this negatively effect my natural production?
3. Are there any good articles on this subject that you might recommend?
1. The negative is you won't gain much BW with the dosage for a dbol bridge(10mg), the positive is you can do this for a long time and the sides will be minimal if any(none in my case).
2. At 10mg/day immediately upon risingit will not affect your hpta as explained by MBP.
3. Check out Bjaarki's library over at AF .
TweetFew more. . .
1. If i put on a little fat during my cycle (2-3%), would this be a good time to burn a little bit of it off, since the dbol bridge is helping preserve the muscle?
2. If im going to bridge, do i still use clomid post cycle therapy, or go straight into my bridge?
3. If this is so effective and as good as it sounds, why doesnt everyone do it?
4. If im going to start another cycle, it is ok after 8th week of bridging correct?
TweetOriginally posted by 2Powerful4u
Few more. . .
1. If i put on a little fat during my cycle (2-3%), would this be a good time to burn a little bit of it off, since the dbol bridge is helping preserve the muscle?
2. If im going to bridge, do i still use clomid post cycle therapy, or go straight into my bridge?
3. If this is so effective and as good as it sounds, why doesnt everyone do it?
4. If im going to start another cycle, it is ok after 8th week of bridging correct?
1. It depends on your diet. It helps preserve muscle but if your diet isn't good it won't help burn fat.
2. Yes clomid is still needed for recovery and the dbol bridge can be run while on it. It helps you recover faster and the post cycle crash isn't dramatic.
3. Not everyone on this board does it but on AF almost everyone has done it and has been proven.
4. The timeline on starting another cycle isn't related to the length of the bridge. It's more of an individual discretion.
Tweetgood luck if u go with it bro, and keep us updated...
TweetDo u guys think d-bol would help w/ post cycle decreased libido.?
Tweetthere is some real good info here today