rado,u serious bout no clomid & 3g TRIB?

[iamcdn]

Tweethey,
i remember in a post you said that you didn't take clomid and never did and instead take 3g Trib ..... were you serious and how's that work for you?

[jack hust]

Tweeti will stick with clomid cheaper and we know it works

[alwayzgrowing]

Tweetclomid and hcg to really help you. or just never come off, that being the most viable option

[Aragorn]

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Originally posted by iamcdn
hey,
i remember in a post you said that you didn't take clomid and never did and instead take 3g Trib ..... were you serious and how's that work for you?

It isn't as silly as you think...I know one competitor that does the same thing, but I believe he uses upwards to 5g instead of using clomid. I don't actually think he has used clomid before...I'll see if he'll lend a voice on the subject.

Aragorn

[jack hust]

Tweetnow that i would like to hear lets us know aragorn

[StoneColdNTO]

Tweeton a little side note - except for the dosages, Clomid & Nolvadex are interchangable.

[iamdwalrus]

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Originally posted by StoneColdNTO
on a little side note - except for the dosages, Clomid & Nolvadex are interchangable.

How could they be interchangeable bro? Clomid stimulates LH production Nolvadex doesn't. Nolvadex occupies E receptors and clomid doesn't.

[PinCushion]

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Originally posted by iamdwalrus
How could they be interchangeable bro? Clomid stimulates LH production Nolvadex doesn't. Nolvadex occupies E receptors and clomid doesn't.

Nolvadex and Clomid are SOMEWHAT interchangeable. They may not be exactly the same chemically, but Clomid can be used to help combat gyno, and Nolvadex can be used post cycle to bring natural test levels back to normal. However, Clomid is a better choice over Nolva for post cycle recovery, and Nolva is a better choice over Clomid to cobat gyno.

[BullFX]

Tweeti thought nolva and clomid are almost the same even chemically but nolva is much stronger ...

[x|Fluid|x]

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Originally posted by PinCushion
Nolvadex and Clomid are SOMEWHAT interchangeable. They may not be exactly the same chemically, but Clomid can be used to help combat gyno, and Nolvadex can be used post cycle to bring natural test levels back to normal. However, Clomid is a better choice over Nolva for post cycle recovery, and Nolva is a better choice over Clomid to cobat gyno.

I agree.

[iamdwalrus]

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Originally posted by PinCushion
Nolvadex and Clomid are SOMEWHAT interchangeable. They may not be exactly the same chemically, but Clomid can be used to help combat gyno, and Nolvadex can be used post cycle to bring natural test levels back to normal. However, Clomid is a better choice over Nolva for post cycle recovery, and Nolva is a better choice over Clomid to cobat gyno.

no offense, but how does nolvadex stimulate LH production which is needed to recover post cycle? The original question was how to bring back your HPTA online, there was no reference about to use for stopping gyno.

[StoneColdNTO]

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Originally posted by StoneColdNTO
on a little side note - except for the dosages, Clomid & Nolvadex are interchangable.

Originally posted by iamdwalrus
How could they be interchangeable bro? Clomid stimulates LH production Nolvadex doesn't. Nolvadex occupies E receptors and clomid doesn't.

That comes straight from Swale, an MD, very well versed in HRT & post cycle recovery.

I see "BullFX" has also posted a link in a different thread concerning the same topic, here it is too;



https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catnolv.htm

Enjoy your new found knowledge & maybe avoid the Clomid Blues.

[rado]

TweetThat's right. If you read my post's here and at Musclechemistry.com, I've never used any kind of anti-estrogens, EVER. I've kept all of my weight, no bloat, no acne, don't loose weight or strength and my testes come back in about 4-5 weeks. I started my 1st cycle that way and everyone after that, I did to see if I could overcome those post effects everyone goes through. I'm not saying for anyone to do it or try it. It worked for me and I've known a few to have done that. Yes I do take that much Trib and lot's of water(especially Green Tea). I've never got gyno either. You know that there are other signs that you can get besides Gyno after test cycles. I forget what it's called but if you have so much estrogen left over, it will turn into fat, especially around the gut, a bit under your pits, and some around your lower back. That's why some of you tend to get fat when you do these heavy cycles, instead of getting gyno, you get the excess fat. Right now I've been off for about 10 weeks, still weigh 194lbs with about 8-9% BF. My next cycle will be 16 weeks with still NO clomid, hcg, liq etc... Tirb will be handy though. I keep saying I will post my new pics soon, but I've working so much and hitting the gym as well that I have to spend time with my GF & my dog. I will post the pics ASAP so that you guys and gals can see what I look like now. The pics I have on here now is me all natural at around 157lbs I believe, or 156lbs. Anyway, my next cycle will be of Test enanthate(QV only)750mgs-EQ 600mgs-Finagold-100eod, and well I haven't decided yet. thx.

[iamcdn]

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Originally posted by Aragorn
It isn't as silly as you think...I know one competitor that does the same thing, but I believe he uses upwards to 5g instead of using clomid. I don't actually think he has used clomid before...I'll see if he'll lend a voice on the subject.

Aragorn

yah its not that silly, trib is supposed to boost LH

i am considering trying to use trib instead of clomid and avoiding the clomid sides while keeping my gains

my question is when would you start taking trib? it takes a while to kick in so take it a couple weeks before you plan to be off or what?

[iamcdn]

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Originally posted by rado
That's right. If you read my post's here and at Musclechemistry.com, I've never used any kind of anti-estrogens, EVER. I've kept all of my weight, no bloat, no acne, don't loose weight or strength and my testes come back in about 4-5 weeks. I started my 1st cycle that way and everyone after that, I did to see if I could overcome those post effects everyone goes through. I'm not saying for anyone to do it or try it. It worked for me and I've known a few to have done that. Yes I do take that much Trib and lot's of water(especially Green Tea). I've never got gyno either. You know that there are other signs that you can get besides Gyno after test cycles. I forget what it's called but if you have so much estrogen left over, it will turn into fat, especially around the gut, a bit under your pits, and some around your lower back. That's why some of you tend to get fat when you do these heavy cycles, instead of getting gyno, you get the excess fat. Right now I've been off for about 10 weeks, still weigh 194lbs with about 8-9% BF. My next cycle will be 16 weeks with still NO clomid, hcg, liq etc... Tirb will be handy though. I keep saying I will post my new pics soon, but I've working so much and hitting the gym as well that I have to spend time with my GF & my dog. I will post the pics ASAP so that you guys and gals can see what I look like now. The pics I have on here now is me all natural at around 157lbs I believe, or 156lbs. Anyway, my next cycle will be of Test enanthate(QV only)750mgs-EQ 600mgs-Finagold-100eod, and well I haven't decided yet. thx.

yah post your pics bro im curious
, and what cycle(s) got you to 197?