extended cycle

[Matt]

TweetI am about to finish my first cycle of qv test en. 2cc's/wk for 10 wks. I think the stuff I got was underdosed. I am in wk 10 now and I've only gained about 7lbs; very little increases in strength, no increrased sex drive. The only thing I got was a little acne on the shoulders. Because of the shitty results, I want to continue the same cycle for 10 more wks. I heard it would be alright to do but I am wondering if anyone had any input? I had planned on gaining 15-20lbs. I think the 7lbs I gained was from the amount of food I was eating. 26 yrs 5'8" 195, 15% bf -hoped to get up to 205-10 before cutting down for summer

[FUZO]

TweetWRONG FORUM MATT,WELCOME TO FG

[71olds442]

Tweetif you run the same dosage, you wont gain more weight, atleast thats my experience. i would wait atleast 2 months, and try it again. or you could switch up drugs and go for it...

[Equalizer]

Tweetthat sux, qv is usually alright....if u do run it longer u better up the dose and maybe add another steroid...really in the long wrong you would probably be better off taking off at least as long as you were on.....maybe try and iron out whatever caused the minimal gains.

[warpalien]

Tweetone of my bros did the same cycle and only gained 9-10 lbs, and it was also his first cycle. i'd try stacking it with something on a seperate cycle next time. first cycle is alawys just a first cycle, so look positively, you at least have some gains..

[SilverbackGorilla]

TweetYour gear must have been fake---7lbs??? That 7lbs was from the extra food you were eating--assuming you ate alot--

In that case---your gear being fake---there is no reason to wait for another cycle--since you really have never done one

I cant imagine your gear being that underdosed---I mean if it was only half what is should have been, you could have gained more than 7 lbs on 250mg week---You would have atleast had some increased strength(what you got was from all the food) and sex drive should have went up too..

I would go ahead and do another one with gear from a trusted source

[HungarianBeast]

TweetHow about the diet?

[Equalizer]

Tweetcuzz he gained 7lbs doesnt mean his gear was fake

[SilverbackGorilla]

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Originally posted by Equalizer
cuzz he gained 7lbs doesnt mean his gear was fake

This is his first cycle---generally your best gains
He did 500mg of enathat---more than enough to grow on for a first cycle
He says he ate alot
He had no increased sex drive
He had very little strength increase--what he got what was probably from the placebo effect of the gear
All these signs point to fake gear!!!

What other explanation do you have??
Dont just say "cuzz he gained 7lbs doesnt mean his gear was fake"

[HungarianBeast]

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Originally posted by SilverbackGorilla
This is his first cycle---generally your best gains
He did 500mg of enathat---more than enough to grow on for a first cycle
He says he ate alot
He had no increased sex drive
He had very little strength increase--what he got what was probably from the placebo effect of the gear
All these signs point to fake gear!!!

What other explanation do you have??
Dont just say "cuzz he gained 7lbs doesnt mean his gear was fake"

He says he ate a lot...what does that mean?

Placebo effect...lol.

If you don't have everything in order (diet, training program, rest) the gear won't do squat.

I gained 20 lbs in 3 months rebounding from an injury before I incorperated the gear once again. It was over 2 years before that since my last cycle. This was done with training, diet, and rest alone. Yes I gained fat too, but that is part of the territory.

[SilverbackGorilla]

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Originally posted by HungarianBeast
He says he ate a lot...what does that mean?

Placebo effect...lol.

If you don't have everything in order (diet, training program, rest) the gear won't do squat.

I gained 20 lbs in 3 months rebounding from an injury before I incorperated the gear once again. It was over 2 years before that since my last cycle. This was done with training, diet, and rest alone. Yes I gained fat too, but that is part of the territory.

What is your point?????

He says he only gained 7lbs--
My point is even if you eat shitty foods-- ie fast food, pizza, etc you will still gain more than 7lbs when taking 500mg a week for your first cycle-- My first cycle was 400mg of test enath. and I ate like shit, took rec drugs, and didnt sleep much and I gained 20lbs----yeah I was too young and stupid to be doing aas, but I learned--

You laugh at the placebo effect comment---So you are telling me that in the first week or so of a cycle(before it kicks in) you dont workout harder knowing that your taking something??


Atleast when you respond trashing what I said, HAVE A POINT TO MAKE---

[adj3b]

TweetI ran that exact cycle for my first and gained 22lbs in 10wks eating like shit, but eating alot.

[Equalizer]

TweetThis is his first cycle---generally your best gains
He did 500mg of enathat---more than enough to grow on for a first cycle
He says he ate alot
He had no increased sex drive
He had very little strength increase--what he got what was probably from the placebo effect of the gear
All these signs point to fake gear!!!

What other explanation do you have??
Dont just say "cuzz he gained 7lbs doesnt mean his gear was fake"

No reason to get so defensive....there are many things that can go into why he didnt gain, the fact that he gained 7lbs means something was going on. U havent seen pics of his gear or anything else so how do u know it was fake...your statement was just kinda jumping the gun u dont have to roid rage, fucking juicers.