Do I Need More MG's ??

[blkturbo]

TweetIm in my 5th week of QV Enan and EQ (and 20mg/day Nolva):
500wk enan
400wk EQ
shots on Mon and Fri's.

All of my other cycels: always a test, (and only once with a deca).

I've always had to experiment with doses (because I wasn't on any boards) but they have ranged from low to high based on 1)trial and error or 2) pyramiding up and down.

Now, my current QV cycle seemed to want to kick in the 2nd week, but has tapered off before really climbing.....I'm not getting the traditional pumps (very small indications though), and I haven't passed the 7lb gain that I got as of a few weeks ago. Remember, I'm basing all of this off my several other test cycles (I'm not making total guesses about anything here).

It just occured to me that with this current cycle, I'm only getting a total of 500mg/wk of the enanthate (and 400/wk EQ) in comparison to the range of as much as 800mg test with my other cycles......so the question is: with this cycle and symptoms, does it look like I need more mg's of test per wk to get over my plateau?
Based on my other cycles, my average was more like 600-700mg's wk (400mg/ml stuff), and this is just occuring to me since I've been distracted by the other 1/2 of my cycle being the EQ.

What do yall think?
Thanks

[jipped genes]

Tweetstrange, i have heard rumors that some batches of QV have been underdosed. how long did you go since your last cycle? enanthate and eq normally kick in after a month its ussually week 5 when i start to feel it good. and yes if you are using less MG this cycle the effects will not be as pronounced.

[jsjs24]

TweetWhat are your stats...height, age, bodyweight, and bodyfat? You may need to do 750mg a wk.

[blkturbo]

TweetWell, I just checked the batch numbers last night and the enan I'm on is 2-thirty-something, not 250.

I'm 31, 6ft, 165 completely natural with no lifting of weights, and I'm around 7% bf naturally (im always lean). I've been 180-185 several times over the past several yrs when on my test cycles and I've gotten pretty familiar with my body and the way it responds to tests. I also eat the same as I've always done before when on gear. It just seems this QV is a little easy on me so far in comparison

[blkturbo]

TweetOh yeah, and as far as QV being underdosed, all the other Mexican gear I've had was probably underdosed also, right?
But I grew on those others (Brovel, TTokyo, and that stuff). Hmmm

[NeverSatisfied]

Tweethow long has it been since ur last cycle

[blkturbo]

TweetOh yeah......umm, right at 1.5yrs!!! That's another reason I'm whacked about this so far

[armani1072]

Tweetbump up the test to about 750mg/ wk or more and the eq to about 600mg/wk.

[blkturbo]

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Originally posted by armani1072
bump up the test to about 750mg/ wk or more and the eq to about 600mg/wk.

Yeah, that's definitely an option but I'm hung up on whether or not that's gonna FIX the "problem" or just MASK it, ya know?


^^ Bump

[Enantato]

TweetYa, I'd just say bump it up another 300-400 mg and let us know in the next week or so, because it does take the test about 5 weeks or so to kick in, not sure about the underdosing, but i also hear about all the gear i've taken being underdosed, so maybe i dont know the difference.... good luck

[pigmeat]

TweetWhat is your protien intake. Try 2 gram/per body#. Remember though, you are only in week 5. It takes Eq 5-6 weeks to really start showing gains, and your test is just starting to kick in. Week 5 is where i start to see noticable gains on long esters. Give it some time.

[HeHateMe]

TweetDefinitely give it some more time like mentioned above. The drugs should start really kicking in. If it's been a year and a half since your last cycle and you're currently only weighing in at 165 lbs, you should absolutely see some effects from almost a gram of juice per week.

[blkturbo]

TweetWell I gained 7lbs in the first couple weeks....the slight effects just sorta sloped off quick it seems. But I will definitely keep my mind open till about wk 6-7 (for the test) since QV is a new brand for me and I dont know how it kicks in my body.

I'm sure my protein is much lower than 170 grams a day since I dont have the luxury of sitting around eating every hour But as I mentioned, it's (my diet) no different than all my other cycles.....since I'm lean, I dont worry about fat gain, so I just eat what I can, when I can.....however I DO keep the average of my food intake being protein, cals, water --- not trash (other than the occassional sweet-tooth)


I'm thinking my body might need more QV mg's compared to other brands....but I'll wait another 1-2wks before deciding.

[MYRICK]

TweetI SAY GO 750 BRO

[pigmeat]

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Originally posted by blkturbo


I'm sure my protein is much lower than 170 grams a day

Whoa! You need at least 250 mg protien, and I would shoot for 300-350. If your protien is much lower than 170g, I dont think 2 grams of test would help you grow. Protien intake is by far the most important element of a cycle.
As far as not having time to eat all day, Hell, 3 shakes is 150g alone! Although they are not as good as whole food protien, it is better than none.