Tweeti agree with esta. need more than 6 weeks. enan is way better.
Tweethello bro's, i´m 25, 5'9, 175 lbs, been tranning for 4 years
i´m reaching genetic limits and i want to do my first cycle.
I have access to: QV (ALMOST EVERYTHING), sostenon 250 (organon), clomid and nolva.
i want to do a 6 weeks cycle at 500 mgs/wk (short one?)
looking for 15 pounds of solid muscle.
SHOULD I STICK TO THE SUST FOR 6 WKS? OR SHOULD I TRY WITH THE QV STUFF LIKE TEST?
WHAT KIND OF PCT SHOULD I DO IF I HAVE IN HAND THE CLOMID AND THE NOLVA?
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Tweeti agree with esta. need more than 6 weeks. enan is way better.
Tweetjust trying to keep those side effects to minimal... so i thought that a 6 weeker would be better...
clomid after 2 or 3 weeks after last shot of sust?
if i choose to go with only one test compund wich one would u recomend as a first cycle enanth, cyp or prop?
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Tweetshould i use liquidex if i see any water retention=?
how should i use it?
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TweetCorrection estan, wait 2 wks after enan and cyp.....it's 3 wks after sust.Originally posted by estanozolol
enanthate or cyp for sure. prop needs to be injected at least every other day. And you should wait 3 weeks after your last shot of enanthate, cyp, or sust to start PCT. hard you work and EAT!
Tweet6 week cycle is not the best choice when using long esters. The test wont kick in until week 4 or 5 ,and you will be getting ready to come off!
Tweeton ur point of view what is better? cyp enanth or sust?
the test is vet grade QV and the sust is organon
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Tweetfor your needs, go with qv enth. organon is quality but it needs to be injected eod at the least to work
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TweetI did an 8wk cycle with solid gains, but everyone is different. 20lb gain to be exact. I didn't run l-dex, although i will run it next time cuz i'm gyno prone and it will reduce the water bloat. I didn't bloat up too much. This is what i would recommend that worked wonders for me:
Weeks 1-4.....Dbol @ 30mg/day
Weeks 1-8.....Test-Enanthate 500mg
Additional Supplements:
ALA and milk thistle for liver protection
Vitamin C
Multi Vitamin/Mineral
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TweetI agree about the enat...better choice imo too. But the sust will work it's just that you won't get much benefit out of the prop ester. Sust is a strangely designed way over hyped steroid that everyone who knows nothing about juice thinks is the best.Originally posted by NeverSatisfied
for your needs, go with qv enth. organon is quality but it needs to be injected eod at the least to work
Tweetnot really much prop in there anyways. At a low dose, i dont think you will get much benefit from the prop. I like single esters better. Go with the enanathateOriginally posted by jsjs24
I agree about the enat...better choice imo too. But the sust will work it's just that you won't get much benefit out of the prop ester. Sust is a strangely designed way over hyped steroid that everyone who knows nothing about juice thinks is the best.
TweetI just finished my first cycle - 500 mg/wk test enan and 400 mg/wk EQ. I was planning on doing 10 wks but ran out at 8. Keep that in mind when buying your stuff. I got screwed and didn't have access to anything when I needed more. Because of some other issues at work in the beginning, I think it took awhile for me to really notice the difference. But all of a sudden about the 6th wk i started gaining weight and getting cut. I only gained about 12 lbs, but like I said it was in a very short time frame. And the change in my body composition made it look like alot more. I wish I could of finished it out to 12 wks. Next time I'll buy more than I think I need just in case.
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Tweetyeah u never know whether ur gear will be underfilledOriginally posted by TXShooter
I just finished my first cycle - 500 mg/wk test enan and 400 mg/wk EQ. I was planning on doing 10 wks but ran out at 8. Keep that in mind when buying your stuff. I got screwed and didn't have access to anything when I needed more. Because of some other issues at work in the beginning, I think it took awhile for me to really notice the difference. But all of a sudden about the 6th wk i started gaining weight and getting cut. I only gained about 12 lbs, but like I said it was in a very short time frame. And the change in my body composition made it look like alot more. I wish I could of finished it out to 12 wks. Next time I'll buy more than I think I need just in case.
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TweetI do agree with you there bro. But if I ever use sust again it will probably be 125mg eod with 100mg prop mixed in it eod, that way I would get the full effect. But I don't know if I will ever do sust again. I like enan and prop!!!Originally posted by pigmeat
not really much prop in there anyways. At a low dose, i dont think you will get much benefit from the prop. I like single esters better. Go with the enanathate