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      I finished my first cycle about 5 weeks ago and will be starting this in about 4-5 more weeks. I gained 28 and kept 21, currently 201 at 6', 22 years of age.

      Test E 500mg/week 1-12 (sydgroup)
      EQ 400mg/week 1-12 (sydgroup)
      Dbol 35mg/day 1-5 (BD pinks)
      Prop 150mg EOD 13-15 150mg
      HCG 500iu 2xweek starting week 4?
      L-dex .5mg EOD 1-17
      Nolv 10mg day 1-19
      R-ALA 600mg/day 1-10
      NAC 800mg/day 1-10
      Proscar 1.25mg/day 1-20+
      Clomid 100mg for 7 days 50mg for 11 days starting 4-5 days after prop is ended.
      This looks like a lot but I decide not to include my cholesterol supplements and vitamins so be thankfull you didnt have to wade through that haha.

      Mostly curious on HCG since there are so many conflicting opinions and theorys out there. What do y'all think. Thanks in advance.
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      Hi,

      Looks solid and youve covered your bases.I know what you mean about being confused with hcg use.I am not a big fan of useing it pct but 500iu every saterday and sunday works well for me throughout the course.

      good luck

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      nice

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      I personally use 500iu sat/sundays as well. I HATE high doses of HCG and the two day split works great for me.

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      Looks good - I personally would make it a little shorter but to each his own. What was your first cycle?
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      a couple things:
      -ditch the nolvadex, it will only hinder your gains. you are allready taking arimidex. It is a low test cycle so i dont think you will need to take it throughout, but keep it on hand. (disregaurd this if you are seceptable to gyno)
      -i would run the EQ the entire length of 15wks, you will probily see the results in the wks of 10-15.
      -i have ran dbol for 5wks and stopped seeing gains at the end of wk 4, i say spare your liver.
      -why not run the r-ala throughout.
      just some constructive criticism, you can tell you have done your homework. It looks like a well thoughtout cycle.
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      looks pretty good bro

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      Originally posted by latimer99
      a couple things:
      -ditch the nolvadex, it will only hinder your gains. you are allready taking arimidex. It is a low test cycle so i dont think you will need to take it throughout, but keep it on hand. (disregaurd this if you are seceptable to gyno)
      -i would run the EQ the entire length of 15wks, you will probily see the results in the wks of 10-15.
      -i have ran dbol for 5wks and stopped seeing gains at the end of wk 4, i say spare your liver.
      -why not run the r-ala throughout.
      just some constructive criticism, you can tell you have done your homework. It looks like a well thoughtout cycle.
      good luck!
      Bro, why do you say Nolva hinders gains? Got any articles?

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      Originally posted by smalls
      I finished my first cycle about 5 weeks ago and will be starting this in about 4-5 more weeks. I gained 28 and kept 21, currently 201 at 6', 22 years of age.

      Test E 500mg/week 1-12 (sydgroup)
      EQ 400mg/week 1-12 (sydgroup)
      Dbol 35mg/day 1-5 (BD pinks)
      Prop 150mg EOD 13-15 150mg
      HCG 500iu 2xweek starting week 4?
      L-dex .5mg EOD 1-17
      Nolv 10mg day 1-19
      R-ALA 600mg/day 1-10
      NAC 800mg/day 1-10
      Proscar 1.25mg/day 1-20+
      Clomid 100mg for 7 days 50mg for 11 days starting 4-5 days after prop is ended.
      This looks like a lot but I decide not to include my cholesterol supplements and vitamins so be thankfull you didnt have to wade through that haha.

      Mostly curious on HCG since there are so many conflicting opinions and theorys out there. What do y'all think. Thanks in advance.
      I think the anti-e's, etc, etc may be overkill here. However, I am not sure of your experiences with your first cycle. (ie: gyno prone, etc, etc..)

      IMO, HCG is not needed for a cycle running 15 weeks. I only use it on cycles running around 20 weeks plus.

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      Thanks for all the help guys, it's much appreciated. My first cycle was
      enanthate 1-11 500mg
      Dbol 1-5 35mg/day 11-13 25mg/day while test was tapering out.

      I think i will keep nolv in just for its SERM benefit because my cholesterol levels are genetically poor. And I really didnt like the testicular atrophy so HCG stays at least for its cosmetic purposes. Calories will steadily increase from 3600 to 4500+ I will be updating you all throughout, I plan on getting and staying above 220 with this one. Anything else you guys can think of.
      "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
      Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
      alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
      Calvin Collidge (1872-1933)
      30th U.S. President

      johnsonpride81@cyber-rights.com

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      I also would run the eq longer as well. I'm on sydgroups cyp and eq now (8th week) and it's taking it's good old time getting going. Other than that looks great bro.
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      You may or may not need the Nolv throughout, but definitely run it while taking HCG if you end up doing so
      rip gu

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      Yeah I will thanks. I think will probably run the eq 15 weeks to see the full benefit.
      "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
      Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
      alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
      Calvin Collidge (1872-1933)
      30th U.S. President

      johnsonpride81@cyber-rights.com

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      If your going to extend the EQ to 15 weeks, I would extend the prop as well.

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