Winnie vs Var Real World ???

[DOUBLE J]

TweetCan someone explain the different actions of Var as opposed to winnie. I`m interested in real world experiance. From reading different profiles they seem similar.

I know var is a bit spendy but is it worth it

In otherwords what is each best suited for?

Example: Strength and lean muscle growth of each. Is one more toxic to the liver than the other? Sides of each?
What are they best suited for.

I found Var at a "reasonable" price and would like to know the pro`s and cons of each? I`m older than most and the joint pain I hear about Winnie is kind of a turn-off.

Both seem similar in profiles I`ve read except Var seems to have an edge in muscle developement.

Someone please in laymans term indicate the differences for me.

Are they run similar lenghts? what about comparable doses?
I see many run Winnie at 50ED what about Var at optimum(sp) dosage?

Help me out Bro`s. Skoooool me. Thanks DOUBLE J

[FUZO]

TweetFINISHED 5 WEEKS OF VAR AND LOVED IT. WINNY IS HARDER ON YOUR LIVER THEN VAR. I DID 30MGS A DAY AND HAD GREAT RESULTS. LOST LOTS OF HAIR ON WINNY/ AND NONE ON VAR

[DOUBLE J]

TweetIs Var alittle more about quality mass?(As in builds a bit more mass) Whats peoples dosage range?
The joint and hair situation of winnie is making me think twice. I`ve just never had any exp with Var.

[jsjs24]

TweetGood question double J, I've wondered the same thing. I'm researching it and really considering Var instead of winny this time. Fuzo, you say 30mg per day worked...how come I always hear you should go with 40 or 50?

[BIG N]

Tweetu get more bang for ur buck with winn,but i would choose var as i muse others would to ,no hair and joint problems,30 mg wont do shit for most peaople ,40-50 is what they normaly use along with 10gr of cratine as oxandrolone stimulates directly the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle it self so they compliment each other.

[bdtr]

TweetFor someone so smart, you sure do type like a chimp with no hands.

Originally posted by big N
u get more bang for ur buck with winn,but i would choose var as i muse others would to ,no hair and joint problems,30 mg wont do shit for most peaople ,40-50 is what they normaly use along with 10gr of cratine as oxandrolone stimulates directly the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle it self so they compliment each other.

[jack hust]

Tweetlmao , i would choose whinny but i dont lose my hair

[FUZO]

TweetWELL BIG N YOU COULD BE RIGHT BUT I WILL TELL EVERY BODY HERE I WIEGH 200 POUNDS TOOK 30MGS A DAY AND MY STRENGTH WENT THROUGH THE ROOF. TO EACH IS OWN I GUESS. MY JOINTS ARE FINE AND NO HAIR LOSS SOME TIMES MORE ISNT BETTER.

[Tinfish]

Tweeti posted this same response at SM

These are my thoughts.

I love winny. I do not really have a big problem with the joint pain but i make sure and have 2500-3000 mgs of glucosamine+chrondoitn ed while on winny.

i have better pumps on winny than var.
i gain more lean mass on winny than i did var.
i have more endurance on winny than var.
Var seems to cut me up a bit more than winny.
var is more gentile on my hairline than winny.
winny affects my peepee more than var (in negative way)
i seem to have better strength on var than winny

an 8 week cycle of winny (50mgs zambons EOD) costs me about $250
an 8 week cycle of var (30mgs ED) costs me close to $400

those are my experiences. others may have different results.