2nd cycle

[BABY ARNOLD]

Tweetguys so far i have done 1 cycle sust at 500mg per week, right now i am 223 5'11 @13% bodyfat. was thinking about doing a lean mass cycle. i know that the general consensus is that test should be the base of every cyle but this is what i was thinking:

800mgs of QV eq for 16 weeks
50 mg of peru tech winny weeks 1-4, and then 12-16

what do you guys think

[doberman7]

Tweet800mg for a 2nd cycle isnt that kind of high . i mean i would through in test but if your not i still dont htink you need 800mg of EQ. maybe 600 at most. just my opinion.
doberman.............

[horsepwr]

TweetWhy wouldn't you use test?

[Drenten]

TweetI know I’m kind of wandering away from your actual question, and I apologize for that, but I just wanted to present this opinion to you as something to think about.

I’m not a fan of the lean mass cycle. The way I see it is winter is right around the corner, so screw it, do a real mass cycle. Buy yourself some XXXL clothes and blow the fuck up. You can lean out later, and if you do it right, you’ll have a lot more muscle when all is said and done.

I’m not trying to bash anybody, but I think the current trend towards “lean bulk cycles” (which seems like an oxymoron to me) is why there are so many bodybuilders that don’t even look like bodybuilders. They look more like a fitness model – if they are lucky, which is fine if that is what they want, but they really should be able to get there without steroids.

I know so many people that use huge amounts of steroids and don’t even look like the workout because they are afraid to eat big and put on some real size.

Save the – as I call them – “anti-catabolic steroids” like EQ, Winny, Anavar, and all the other mild stuff for cutting cycles, and for putting on size, break out the big knuckle dragging goons like Testosterone, Anadrol, D-Bol, and my favorite mild bulker – Deca.

Also, and this is probably the most important thing, eat big – really big.

That’s just my 2 cents.

[BABY ARNOLD]

Tweeti cant i just started a new modeling job and i have to cut up and unfortunetly i can only do lean mass cycles, i know most of you think that it is a waste, bump for more opinions

[jsjs24]

TweetGood post Drenton! I totally agree but if you are gonna do a cycle without test I don't see any need for 800mg of eq....espaecially for a 2nd cycle. To me that's just gonna load you up in side effects and not get much more gains than if took say 400 or 500mg per week. Also, did you ever think about adding some prop in there. Just my opinion too! Good luck though!

[BABY ARNOLD]

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[LOCO]

Tweetlooks good to me... i think 600 eq would do just as good...
ever thought of tren?

[Striated]

TweetI agree with Drenten, well said. Then again, I'm naturally lean, so it will be a while before I think about a cutting cycle.

[grdfreak]

Tweeti really dont think u need 800mgs a week-even 400mgs will do fine for a longer period of time. Also be careful of winny pain. And if u are prone to holding water on juice make sure u have some kind of anti-e. u dont want a water look in modeling pics

[jack hust]

Tweeti think you would only need 600 mg of eq but looks good