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      Vitamin B12 and the Metebolic rate
      Vitamin B12, also known as cobalamin, is naturally found in food such as fish, milk and milk products, eggs, meat and poultry. Fortified breakfast cereals are another source of vitamin B12 and a valuable source for vegetarians. Vitamin B12 is important for good health, necessary for the proper digestion and absorption of foods and for normal metabolism of carbohydrates, and fat. It helps maintain healthy nerve cells and red blood cells and is needed to make DNA. Vitamin B12 is bound to the protein in food. Hydrochloric acid in the stomach releases B12 from protein during digestion. Vitamin B12 was isolated from a liver extracted in 1948 and identified as the nutritional factor in liver that prevented pernicious anemia, a deadly type of anemia characterized by large, immature red blood cells. In order to absorb the small amounts of vitamin B12 found in food, the stomach secretes intrinsic factor, a special digestive secretion that increases the absorption of vitamin B12 in the small intestine. Unlike other water-soluble nutrients, vitamin B12 is stored in the liver, kidney, and other body tissues. It can take several years before signs of the deficiency appear, all because of poor dietary intake. Vitamin B12 functions as a "methyl donor." A methyl donor is a compound that carries and donates methyl groups to other molecules, including cell membrane components and neurotransmitters. As a methyl donor vitamin B12 is involved in homocysteine metabolism and plays a critical role in proper energy metabolism, immune function, and nerve function. Therefore, vitamin B12 is clearly an added benefit for anyone wanting to lose weight, as without it, metabolism is not at its peak potential. Dosing for vitamin B12 is dependent on the age of the individual as well as if the patient is pregnant or lactating. Vitamin B12 is necessary in only very small quantities No one has ever reported clear toxicity from vitamin B12
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      Posts about vitamins seem out of place on the 'Anabolic Steroid Discussion' board. Maybe you should post this in the suppliments section.

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      DannyM you don't understand anabolism or why you need B12 to grow ....thats why it's here to aid people while there on ...and to inform

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      b12 is a good addition to any cycle its good to cut painful juice, etc. the thread stays here

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      buyb12,
      While I'm not saying that B12 isn't a good product, as some guys on here seem to really like, I feel I should point out that it is quite easy to get over 1,000% of the RDA if you consume adequate red meat (e.g., extra lean beaf). Not sure about chicken or other meats, but I'm willing to bet it is very similar. And like other vitamins and almost any other supplement or drug, the law of diminishing returns does apply. Your body only needs so much B12. From there it is just pissed out.

      And before I get flamed, I like your site/products. But go a little easier on pimping the B12, 24/7! You've got other products which are better, IMHO.

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      the rda is based on a 2000 calorie diet bro. I know guys who eat 7000.

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      I use it when I'm "off." Still have about 30cc's left of the good red stuff at 1000mcg a cc. Coming off my cycle in another 2 months. 3cc's a week will do me good.
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      "But go a little easier on pimping the B12, 24/7!"
      "He does push pretty hard though... "

      Sure feels that way dont it.
      Maybe this can become the "B12 Discussion Board", LOL! ;^)

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      Originally posted by pudgy
      the rda is based on a 2000 calorie diet bro. I know guys who eat 7000.
      Nope. RDA is for all individuals (note that there are different groups of individuals such as infants, pregnant women, lactating women, etc.). 2 standard deviations above the EAR (estimated average requirement) = RDA. You're thinking of Daily Value (DV) which is based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

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      its good stuff for bulking and post cycle

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      my mistake. either way would you take a look at the food pyramid and look at the fat ass america it has created by telling people fat makes you fat and dont eat meat eat grains and carbs, your backing the wrong horse.
      thanks for correcting me tho, i hate to be wrong

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      pudgy,
      No problem There's so many damn systems it's really confusing.

      However, I'm going to have to disagree with your comments about the food pyramid . I know I'm in the minority here, but fat ass america doesn't exactly follow the food pyramid so it's kinda hard to use the general population as an example. Also remember that it's created for sedentary individuals. I think it's actually quite good. However, the protein recommendation isn't exactly for resistance trained individuals. The current RDA for protein is an AI (adequate intake) value, which means that they really don't know how much protein a person needs. The number (0.8g/kg for adults I believe) is based on what seems to be an adequate amount so that no deficiencies show. Also consider that one of the reasons why the meat, fish, and dairy product recommendations are so low is because most americans get their protein from animals and dairy products that aren't exactly low in fat (eg, regular cheese, McDonald's hamburgers).

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      great explanation , solid well thought out arguement, we will agree to disagree on this one.

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      I'll definately settle for that.

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      Great info.
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