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      One of the top 10 finishers in this years Master's Mr. Olympia claims to be natural and to have never used AAS in his life. Does anyone believe this to be likely or even possible?

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      Beauty is only skin deep - unless you have some good muscle underneath.
      Then it goes much deeper.

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      Who dat?
      Beauty is only skin deep - unless you have some good muscle underneath.
      Then it goes much deeper.

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      Nice oxy-moron...lol
      A lot of people dream of having a great body, others stay awake and get it done.


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      oh yea its all protein

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      Yeah, all these guys that compete in natural show like the musclemania claim to be natural. They might not be taking test or deca, but you can bet your ass they are hitting insulin and GH as hard as a regular pro. There is no test that can detect insulin of GH use.

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      Default re: natural contests

      Most natural contests are drug tested ie. epitestosterone/test ratio as well as polygraph or some sort of voice analysis. These tests are inconclusive to say the least. I have personally beaten the voice analysis/poly test. The epi/test ratio is easily beaten as well...most guys doing the musclemania or other natural shows will run tren and prop together until 4 weeks out than switch to winny and primo with t3+clen for fat loss+hcg+nolvadex to normalize ...this brings your ratios back in line and you will test clean! There is no test for testosterone at the moment besides a epi/test ratio exam..but the metabolit itself cannot be distinguised from the natural molecule! There is now a test for HGH but it will not hit the IOC stage probably until 2005 due to political issues. IGF1 R3 would be the way to go since it is much faster in and out and a test has not been developed yet that I know of..any input here would be appreciated! From what I have seen a 4-6 weeks cycle of 60-80 mcg IGF1 R3 long combined with a good AAS would yield a minimum of 10 lbs lean muscle gain plus 4-5 % body fat loss...these are averages I have gathered over much research on "test" subjects!

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      I dunno who the Master's Olympia contestant that made the natural claim is, but I do recall Flex Wheeler saying that he was going to compete in the regular Olympia 'naturally'. This was awhile ago...

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      Default Re: re: natural contests

      Originally posted by Praetorian
      Most natural contests are drug tested ie. epitestosterone/test ratio as well as polygraph or some sort of voice analysis. These tests are inconclusive to say the least. I have personally beaten the voice analysis/poly test. The epi/test ratio is easily beaten as well...most guys doing the musclemania or other natural shows will run tren and prop together until 4 weeks out than switch to winny and primo with t3+clen for fat loss+hcg+nolvadex to normalize ...this brings your ratios back in line and you will test clean! There is no test for testosterone at the moment besides a epi/test ratio exam..but the metabolit itself cannot be distinguised from the natural molecule! There is now a test for HGH but it will not hit the IOC stage probably until 2005 due to political issues. IGF1 R3 would be the way to go since it is much faster in and out and a test has not been developed yet that I know of..any input here would be appreciated! From what I have seen a 4-6 weeks cycle of 60-80 mcg IGF1 R3 long combined with a good AAS would yield a minimum of 10 lbs lean muscle gain plus 4-5 % body fat loss...these are averages I have gathered over much research on "test" subjects!



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      is there a test for hgh now????


      there is a test for synthetic test now. there is 1 carbon atom difference ior some shit in it. I dont know the exact details of it but i read a huge article on testing and it said there was now offically a test for it.
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      This guy also placed in the regular Mr. O. many years ago and says he never used anything in his life. He placed in the top 6 in the Master's Mr. O. this year. As a hint, he wasn't in the top 5.

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      so he was the sixth

      and of course he's natural why dont you believe the man
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      Default Re: "Natural" Pro's

      Originally posted by darmadoc
      One of the top 10 finishers in this years Master's Mr. Olympia claims to be natural and to have never used AAS in his life. Does anyone believe this to be likely or even possible?


      I find that very hard to believe.

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      Hard to imagine someone at that level being natural.
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